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  • BigFatMeanie
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 7094

    #1441
    Originally posted by UVACoug View Post
    I voted for McMullin too, but he wasn't a great option. It would take someone like Mitt, who has impeccable credentials and a lot of credibility, to even have a hope of pulling it off. Mitt is damaged goods at this point, and too old, so it shouldn't be him. But someone in that vein might at least force the election to the House. Not that that would help, given it is currently in the control of Democrats.


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    Too Old? Mitt is 6 years younger than Bernie, 5 years younger than Biden, 1 year younger than Trump, and 2 years older than Warren.

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    • myboynoah
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2008
      • 21719

      #1442
      Originally posted by UVACoug View Post
      I voted for McMullin too, but he wasn't a great option. It would take someone like Mitt, who has impeccable credentials and a lot of credibility, to even have a hope of pulling it off. Mitt is damaged goods at this point, and too old, so it shouldn't be him. But someone in that vein might at least force the election to the House. Not that that would help, given it is currently in the control of Democrats.


      Originally posted by BigFatMeanie View Post
      Too Old? Mitt is 6 years younger than Bernie, 5 years younger than Biden, 1 year younger than Trump, and 2 years older than Warren.
      BFM UVaC



      Write in Mitt!!!
      Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

      For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

      Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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      • frank ryan
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2008
        • 12278

        #1443
        Originally posted by Scott R Nelson View Post
        That Millie Weaver video is bogus. He didn't answer any of those questions she was throwing out and she was jumping to conclusions left and right.

        Andrew Yang actually has some pretty good ideas if you listen to what HE has to say. I still have him on the list of people who should drop out right away, though.

        Most of what Ted posts is gotcha tweets and memes

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        • Omaha 680
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2011
          • 11171

          #1444
          In the debate Blasio literally said he wants to "even the score" and "tax the hell out of the rich". This is the essence of the democratic platform right now. The difference between De Blaso/AOC and Harris/Warren/Bernie is not substance or policy. It is only tactics. I did not and will not vote for trump, but the insanity of the dem reaction to him is forcing me to a third party again.

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          • Uncle Ted
            The Big 12 money shot.
            • Apr 2010
            • 28853

            #1445
            Originally posted by Omaha 680 View Post
            In the debate Blasio literally said he wants to "even the score" and "tax the hell out of the rich". This is the essence of the democratic platform right now. The difference between De Blaso/AOC and Harris/Warren/Bernie is not substance or policy. It is only tactics. I did not and will not vote for trump, but the insanity of the dem reaction to him is forcing me to a third party again.
            LOL... They love de Blasio's tax plan back home:

            De Blasio’s Extreme Tax Plan Is Either A Political Stunt Or A Recipe To Ruin NYC, Experts Say

            Mayor de Blasio’s radical new tax plan isn’t even a day-old and is already receiving intense blowback.

            It’s being dismissed as both a desperate political stunt to stay in the presidential race and something that could decimate New York City’s economy.

            “We will tax the hell out of the wealthy,” de Blasio declared Wednesday night.

            The mixed nuts Bill de Blasio ate to prepare for the presidential debate may have gone to his head – because the radical tax plan he now wants to impose on the United States has many people asking “are you nuts?” and “do you know what it would do to the city you lead?”

            “This plan is not just a tax on the ultra-wealthy, not just a tax on the wealthy, but a tax on the middle class… It’s extreme,” Timothy Ghriskey, the chief investment strategist for Inverness Counsel said.

            The mayor of a city supported by Wall Street, the real estate industry, the tech industry, and the American dream is – according to experts – trying to dim the light on Lady Liberty’s torch by redistributing everyone’s money.

            De Blasio’s radical plan would impose:

            • $10 trillion in new taxes
            • A recurring wealth tax on assets
            • New taxes on Wall Street stock trades
            • Estate taxes on everything over $1 million
            • A “turncoat” tax if anyone decides to renounce their citizenship to avoid paying de Blasio’s taxes


            Experts say the new asset tax would decimate the real estate industry. People would be loath to buy pricey apartments if they had to pay another tax in top of the real estate tax. Building owners might be forced to sell.
            [...]
            "This plan is not just a tax on the ultra-wealthy, not just a tax on the wealthy, but a tax on the middle class… It's extreme," Timothy Ghriskey, the chief investment strategist for Inverness Counsel said.


            Yes, the idea to tax everything that moves is not new among Democrats.
            "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
            "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
            "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
            GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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            • frank ryan
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2008
              • 12278

              #1446
              Originally posted by Omaha 680 View Post
              In the debate Blasio literally said he wants to "even the score" and "tax the hell out of the rich". This is the essence of the democratic platform right now. The difference between De Blaso/AOC and Harris/Warren/Bernie is not substance or policy. It is only tactics. I did not and will not vote for trump, but the insanity of the dem reaction to him is forcing me to a third party again.
              I can understand your position.

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              • UVACoug
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2013
                • 2685

                #1447
                Originally posted by BigFatMeanie View Post
                Too Old? Mitt is 6 years younger than Bernie, 5 years younger than Biden, 1 year younger than Trump, and 2 years older than Warren.
                He'd be the oldest person elected to be President if he won. Time to move on from the boomers.

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                • Copelius
                  Maker of eyeballs
                  • Dec 2012
                  • 4032

                  #1448
                  Originally posted by UVACoug View Post
                  I voted for McMullin too, but he wasn't a great option. It would take someone like Mitt, who has impeccable credentials and a lot of credibility, to even have a hope of pulling it off. Mitt is damaged goods at this point, and too old, so it shouldn't be him. But someone in that vein might at least force the election to the House. Not that that would help, given it is currently in the control of Democrats.


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                  It may be in control of the Democrats, but each state is only allowed 1 vote in the event of no majority of the electors. By my calculation the current make up by state is 26 R 22 D and 2 split. That would make the House elections even more interesting if there were a viable third party candidate.
                  “Every player dreams of being a Yankee, and if they don’t it’s because they never got the chance.” Aroldis Chapman

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                  • UVACoug
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2013
                    • 2685

                    #1449
                    Originally posted by Copelius View Post
                    It may be in control of the Democrats, but each state is only allowed 1 vote in the event of no majority of the electors. By my calculation the current make up by state is 26 R 22 D and 2 split. That would make the House elections even more interesting if there were a viable third party candidate.
                    I forgot about that. That would make it interesting. Given what we’ve seen so far, though, they’d probably re-elect Trump.

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                    • wapiti
                      Junior Member
                      • Apr 2012
                      • 2064

                      #1450
                      Originally posted by UVACoug View Post
                      I forgot about that. That would make it interesting. Given what we’ve seen so far, though, they’d probably re-elect Trump.
                      They actually aren't beholden to the two main candidates. They could potentially choose a third, more moderate candidate.

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                      • BlueK
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2011
                        • 7152

                        #1451
                        If a recession hits due to the trade war, I don't think it's something Trump's campaign is going to be able to overcome.

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                        • LVAllen
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2013
                          • 3235

                          #1452
                          Originally posted by BlueK View Post
                          If a recession hits due to the trade war, I don't think it's something Trump's campaign is going to be able to overcome.

                          https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/05/econo...uan/index.html
                          It's the fault of those damn socialists. Just like Democrats, see? China = Socialist, Democrat = Socialist, ergo Effect of Trump's trade war (and now, likely currency war) = caused by Democrats.

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                          • BlueK
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2011
                            • 7152

                            #1453
                            Originally posted by LVAllen View Post
                            It's the fault of those damn socialists. Just like Democrats, see? China = Socialist, Democrat = Socialist, ergo Effect of Trump's trade war (and now, likely currency war) = caused by Democrats.
                            Sure, a lot of his base would follow him straight into hell and then some. But just enough voters he got last time in some of the states he barely won and badly needs to win again (MI, WI, PA) will flip. His path to reelection was pretty tight as it was. A recession will be too much to overcome.
                            Last edited by BlueK; 08-05-2019, 02:00 PM.

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                            • Moliere
                              One man.....one pie
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 27808

                              #1454
                              Originally posted by BlueK View Post
                              If a recession hits due to the trade war, I don't think it's something Trump's campaign is going to be able to overcome.

                              https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/05/econo...uan/index.html
                              I agree. His re-election depends on the economy and if he doesn’t time his trade war right people will be pretty upset. Stocks are still relatively high but people forget that once they’ve readjusted their baseline.
                              "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                              • SeattleUte
                                Faith crisis consultant
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 20837

                                #1455
                                Originally posted by UVACoug View Post
                                He'd be the oldest person elected to be President if he won. Time to move on from the boomers.

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                                Mitt is a beast. I bet he can do crunches like Patrick Bateman.
                                When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                                --Jonathan Swift

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