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  • tooblue
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 5113

    #1201
    Originally posted by Shaka View Post

    Shhhh..... The messenger must die!
    If we do another google search we discover:

    "Investigations by state regulators, news organizations, and law enforcement have found no credible evidence substantiating Nick Shirley’s claims that Somali Americans orchestrated a massive, fake child care or health care fraud scheme in Minnesota."

    It was orchestrated Aimee Block who is now in prison:

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...rison-sentence

    And well, he did promote and defend an antisemitic video that supposedly "Exposes a New Jersey’s Jewish Invasion."

    So, the messenger's agenda driven intent is suspect at a minimum.

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    • frank ryan
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2008
      • 12314

      #1202
      Parroting the "shoot the messenger line" is low effort, tired and dumb. But keep trusting in JD Vance's sage media judgment.

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      • frank ryan
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2008
        • 12314

        #1203
        Originally posted by Moliere View Post

        I doubt I called it that so please post the receipts. The reason I doubt it is that I’m intimately familiar with one of the largest frauds of all time. I live in Houston and have worked with and for people that were at Enron, including senior level positions. The Somali fraud pales in comparison.
        Moli, you are right . You didn't call it the biggest fraud. It was another board regular.

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        • dabrockster
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 10919

          #1204
          Originally posted by Moliere View Post

          I doubt I called it that so please post the receipts. The reason I doubt it is that I’m intimately familiar with one of the largest frauds of all time. I live in Houston and have worked with and for people that were at Enron, including senior level positions. The Somali fraud pales in comparison.
          As usual, when you call him out for his “libel or slander” he turns tails and changes his tune but now he says some “other board regular” said it. Look forward to him saying who that was.

          This way he can throw shit to the wall without any accountability.

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          • falafel
            loves to talk on things
            • Mar 2009
            • 37928

            #1205
            Originally posted by dabrockster View Post

            As usual, when you call him out for his “libel or slander” he turns tails and changes his tune but now he says some “other board regular” said it. Look forward to him saying who that was.

            This way he can throw shit to the wall without any accountability.
            I thought you weren't engaging with frank anymore? Yet here you are, gleefully wallowing in an off-hand comment.
            Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

            Dig your own grave, and save!

            "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

            "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

            GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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            • dabrockster
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 10919

              #1206
              Originally posted by falafel View Post

              I thought you weren't engaging with frank anymore? Yet here you are, gleefully wallowing in an off-hand comment.
              Look at you.. Tailing me on a DB.. Such a body guard. Actually, I initial asked him to not engage me but he kept being a dick so I followed suit. And here we are..

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              • LVAllen
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2013
                • 3253

                #1207
                Originally posted by dabrockster View Post

                As usual, when you call him out for his “libel or slander” he turns tails and changes his tune but now he says some “other board regular” said it. Look forward to him saying who that was.

                This way he can throw shit to the wall without any accountability.
                That would be the Dude. You do know we have a search function?

                Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

                Lol. What?

                They just allowed the largest fraud in US history. Now they should secede?

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                • Moliere
                  One man.....one pie
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 27843

                  #1208
                  Originally posted by LVAllen View Post

                  That would be the Dude. You do know we have a search function?


                  I’ve met Lebowski and I don’t look anything like him so I’m not sure why frank confused me with him
                  "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                  • Jeff Lebowski
                    Corporate lackey for Jesus
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 69589

                    #1209
                    Originally posted by LVAllen View Post

                    That would be the Dude. You do know we have a search function?




                    ONE of the biggest
                    "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                    "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                    "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                    • falafel
                      loves to talk on things
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 37928

                      #1210
                      Originally posted by dabrockster View Post

                      Look at you.. Tailing me on a DB.. Such a body guard. Actually, I initial asked him to not engage me but he kept being a dick so I followed suit. And here we are..
                      Weird, so you can't even take your own advice.
                      Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

                      Dig your own grave, and save!

                      "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

                      "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

                      GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                      • dabrockster
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 10919

                        #1211
                        Originally posted by LVAllen View Post

                        That would be the Dude. You do know we have a search function?


                        Why are you doing Frankie’s job for him. Let him find the post. Let him own it..

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                        • LVAllen
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2013
                          • 3253

                          #1212
                          Originally posted by dabrockster View Post

                          Why are you doing Frankie’s job for him. Let him find the post. Let him own it..
                          I mean, he already apologized and corrected his statement. Seems like he owned it. You seemed skeptical that another regular poster said it, so I did a search that yielded 7 results in 0.0125 seconds and found the discussion (which Moli was a part of, just not that specific assertion). Perhaps give frank the benefit of your next doubt?

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                          • dabrockster
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 10919

                            #1213
                            Originally posted by LVAllen View Post

                            I mean, he already apologized and corrected his statement. Seems like he owned it. You seemed skeptical that another regular poster said it, so I did a search that yielded 7 results in 0.0125 seconds and found the discussion (which Moli was a part of, just not that specific assertion). Perhaps give frank the benefit of your next doubt?
                            Not really. He admitted he was wrong that it was not Moli but followed it up with “It was another board regular.” No proof just the regular same old blind statements without any actual proof to back it up. Again, he wants to throw it out, back it up. Not have you do his dirty work for him.

                            As for the statement alone, it is not hard to see the wave of public pressure and movement in addressing fraud in Medicaid from these viral videos. While he (Shirley) focused on one ethnic group, state agencies have utilized it to clamp down on fraud in ways we have not been able to for decades. And it is not single-minded to a demographic but actual fraud. Frankie can vilify or act like this fake journalist did nothing, but the reality is the complete opposite. And I think we can all agree Medicaid is a massive program that is wrought with fraud and lacks the safe guards it should have over all of our money.

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                            • chrisrenrut
                              Strikes and Gutters
                              • Jul 2009
                              • 2277

                              #1214
                              Originally posted by dabrockster View Post

                              Not really. He admitted he was wrong that it was not Moli but followed it up with “It was another board regular.” No proof just the regular same old blind statements without any actual proof to back it up. Again, he wants to throw it out, back it up. Not have you do his dirty work for him.

                              As for the statement alone, it is not hard to see the wave of public pressure and movement in addressing fraud in Medicaid from these viral videos. While he (Shirley) focused on one ethnic group, state agencies have utilized it to clamp down on fraud in ways we have not been able to for decades. And it is not single-minded to a demographic but actual fraud. Frankie can vilify or act like this fake journalist did nothing, but the reality is the complete opposite. And I think we can all agree Medicaid is a massive program that is wrought with fraud and lacks the safe guards it should have over all of our money.
                              Frank Derangement Syndrome

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                              • LVAllen
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2013
                                • 3253

                                #1215
                                Originally posted by dabrockster View Post

                                Not really. He admitted he was wrong that it was not Moli but followed it up with “It was another board regular.”
                                I mean.. it was. He may have been less willing to throw the Dude under the bus than I was (which I only did because you pressed the issue and demanded proof).

                                No proof just the regular same old blind statements without any actual proof to back it up.
                                You got proof. Now you're unhappy you didn't get proof? Are you suggesting he's hiding something that was easily found by a search available to anyone on the site?

                                Again, he wants to throw it out, back it up. Not have you do his dirty work for him.
                                He immediately recognized his error and addressed it. Why do you feel the need to be offended on behalf of Moliere? It seems aren't going to be happy until frank self-flagellates for your amusement, for an offense that wasn't yours to take in the first place.

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