SCOTUS

[Maximus]

The chances the scotus rules against Trump when when obvious is very low. They know the hand that feeds them.

[dabrockster]

When the SCOTUS shuts down the Trump Tariffs due to over reach. I sure hope they have held all that money we have been getting as it will likely all have to be returned. What a nightmare to unwind all that…

Plus, what will this mean for all those agreements and the outlook of American across the globe.

[falafel]

During Biden's presidency SCOTUS ruled against his administration multiple times and created something called the major questions doctrine as the rationale. For the tariffs case coming up we'll find out I guess if the hypocrisy comes through and decide if this new legal doctrine only applies to presidents the majority on the court don't like. The tariffs are absolutely a major question. I don't think the doctrine is even needed here to strike them down however. The statutes the administration is trying to use to justify them are a beyond absurd stretching of the original intent of Congress anyway.

https://apnews.com/article/supreme-c...638e9953db2aeb

The article you cite does not seem to paint the same picture you do here. I read the article as suggesting that it is unknown how the Court will address this, given Kavanaugh's dissent and the dissent by the Fed. Ct. of App. judge.

[BlueK]

During Biden's presidency SCOTUS ruled against his administration multiple times and created something called the major questions doctrine as the rationale. For the tariffs case coming up we'll find out I guess if the hypocrisy comes through and decide if this new legal doctrine only applies to presidents the majority on the court don't like. The tariffs are absolutely a major question. I don't think the doctrine is even needed here to strike them down however. The statutes the administration is trying to use to justify them are a beyond absurd stretching of the original intent of Congress anyway.

https://apnews.com/article/supreme-c...638e9953db2aeb

[dabrockster]

Is there a happy medium. Require district in urban areas based on a population level have districts and less populated have their own district or no district but popular vote for those areas and not allow the urban areas to vote.

Maybe this is no different than it’s current state, but there has to be a path to remove gerrymandering. I do think what Ahnold did in California was the most equitable path and removed politicians completely.

[Pelado]

Part of the guidelines for creating voting districts is population equality. So lower population areas have to be combined with each other to equal more populous districts, or combined with more populous districts.

Utah’s gerrymandering efforts are using the second, since it will dilute the more populous and democratic areas with less populous and republican voters.

Texas gerrymandering is using the first. Trying to consolidate populous democratic districts to allow more less populous republican districts.

My comment is not really about gerrymandering technique. Rather, I was attempting to answer the question of why people wouldn't want to get rid of congressional districts in favor of statewide elections.

[chrisrenrut]

That would eliminate gerrymandering and probably help to moderate a lot but I think the less-populous areas like having a congressperson representing their district alone since otherwise all the power would shift back to the population centers.

Part of the guidelines for creating voting districts is population equality. So lower population areas have to be combined with each other to equal more populous districts, or combined with more populous districts.

Utah’s gerrymandering efforts are using the second, since it will dilute the more populous and democratic areas with less populous and republican voters.

Texas gerrymandering is using the first. Trying to consolidate populous democratic districts to allow more less populous republican districts.

[Pelado]

The example Jackson tried to use on the issue was a terrible example. Affirmative Action would make more sense than the ADA. Terrible comparison.

I think the current system of districts bad. Depending who area/state, we see both parties use it to their advantage.

Are districts truly needed? Why not popular votes across the state and if the state has four seats in the senate, then the top 4-winners get those seats. Same goes for the house. Would this remove the gerrymandering we all loathe now? Is it more complicated than that?

That would eliminate gerrymandering and probably help to moderate a lot but I think the less-populous areas like having a congressperson representing their district alone since otherwise all the power would shift back to the population centers.

[dabrockster]

Hearings today on the voting rights act. Justices appear poised to rule that states are not allowed to consider race in determining district boundaries.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/10...095be609c290aa

If true, this would eliminate a large number of black districts in the south.

The example Jackson tried to use on the issue was a terrible example. Affirmative Action would make more sense than the ADA. Terrible comparison.

I think the current system of districts bad. Depending who area/state, we see both parties use it to their advantage.

Are districts truly needed? Why not popular votes across the state and if the state has four seats in the senate, then the top 4-winners get those seats. Same goes for the house. Would this remove the gerrymandering we all loathe now? Is it more complicated than that?

[frank ryan]

Yep. Congress about to get even more divided and siloed, if that's possible.

It's another venue for the political minority (MAGA) to make voting them out of power difficult

[LVAllen]

Hearings today on the voting rights act. Justices appear poised to rule that states are not allowed to consider race in determining district boundaries.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/10...095be609c290aa

If true, this would eliminate a large number of black districts in the south.

Reminder that the VRA depends on the 14th Amendment because SCOTUS was all hunky-dory with Jim Crow gutting the 15th Amendment promises enforced by the Civil Rights Acts. And a majority of the Court haaaaaates the 14th Amendment.

[falafel]

Hearings today on the voting rights act. Justices appear poised to rule that states are not allowed to consider race in determining district boundaries.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/10...095be609c290aa

If true, this would eliminate a large number of black districts in the south.

Yep. Congress about to get even more divided and siloed, if that's possible.

[frank ryan]

Hearings today on the voting rights act. Justices appear poised to rule that states are not allowed to consider race in determining district boundaries.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/10...095be609c290aa

If true, this would eliminate a large number of black districts in the south.

Game changer is not a good way. The voting rights act was historically important

[Jeff Lebowski]

Hearings today on the voting rights act. Justices appear poised to rule that states are not allowed to consider race in determining district boundaries.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/10...095be609c290aa

If true, this would eliminate a large number of black districts in the south.

[UVACoug]

Those two don't inspire confidence in the court. I can't believe no one of the right gave a shit about Thomas being bribed by billionaires.

What did he get "bribed" to do?