SCOTUS

[SeattleUte]

The deliberate illiteracy about the law that democrats are evincing about this Supreme Court opinion on presidential immunity is shocking. It's as if they don't understand the meaning of presumptions, that they can be overcome, that what is an official act depends on fact finding by a trial court, I.e., a trial. Trump has not been given a free pass. Neither side won. All professions and public officials including journalists enjoy some kind of immunity.

The Supreme Court had already held decades ago that Nixon was immune from tort claims for official acts.

Even Laurence Tribe is being deliberately stupid. The opinion restores restraint and sanity. I'm sure Biden could be indicted for negligence about the border. Sotomeyor is irresponsible suggesting that assassinating your opponent is an official act. If the tables were turned I know democrats would be praising this decision. The partisanship has swallowed reason and even true liberalism.

[Uncle Ted]

Apparently Trump isn't the only person that doesn't understand what Grandpa Joe is saying...

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And that was back before folks thought he had dementia.

[Bo Diddley]

Apparently Trump isn't the only person that doesn't understand what Grandpa Joe is saying...

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And that was back before folks thought he had dementia.

That sounds funny, but since I'm a lawyer, I don't know if I should laugh or not.

[frank ryan]

That sounds funny, but since I'm a lawyer, I don't know if I should laugh or not.

I think natural law was some weird thing that Thomas actually was all about. I can't google it right now, but iirc, exploring that valid. Thomas is and was a weird dude.

Disclaimer: I'm a dumb non-lawyer.

[Bo Diddley]

I think natural was some weird that Thomas actually was all about. I can't google it right now, but iirc, exploring that valid. Thomas is and was a weird dude.

Disclaimer: I'm a dumb non-lawyer.

Ok, yeah I just did some reading on it, and it actually jogged my memory from Thomas's confirmation hearing about the issue and what it's all about, and how Thomas distanced himself from it.

So yeah, while that compilation of sound bites sounds funny when put together, they're obviously taken out of context, which was really what was nagging at me.

[Moliere]

No surprise you've bought into the MAGA spin. Among other deceptions you're promoting: that tweet shows a 1213 time stamp, but that's Pacific Time. He sent that tweet at 3:13 EST, long after his aides had been pleading with him to send a "no violence" tweet, and hours after telling his minions many times to go up to the Capitol and "fight like hell." Trump resolutely refused to say anything to calm the situation until long after the damage had been done and he slowly realized this was going to reflect very badly on him.
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But then, you're a smart guy and you delight in trolling us. Some of us delight in pointing out your fatuous political and foreign policy takes, and still others delight in pointing out the futility of our Pavlovian responses to those takes. Each CSer filling the measure of his creation.

I’m pretty sure it was daylight time

[Bo Diddley]

I’m pretty sure it was daylight time

#nomoredaylightsavings

[Moliere]

I still don't believe Pence saved our democracy. The checks and balances would have held even if Pence folded.

Agreed, although Pence stopped the thing from going any further. The checks and balances would have held. The majority of Americans accepted the results of the election and a small crazy few would not have turned the tide to out Trump in office again after he lost, even if they killed Pence and other republicans.

Can you imagine what would have happened if pence were hung that day? Do people really think that act would garner any sort of sympathy for Trump?

[Moliere]

#nomoredaylightsavings

Actually, I was thinking this was in early November. PAC is correct, it was standard time

[Jeff Lebowski]

The deliberate illiteracy about the law that democrats are evincing about this Supreme Court opinion on presidential immunity is shocking. It's as if they don't understand the meaning of presumptions, that they can be overcome, that what is an official act depends on fact finding by a trial court, I.e., a trial. Trump has not been given a free pass. Neither side won. All professions and public officials including journalists enjoy some kind of immunity.

The Supreme Court had already held decades ago that Nixon was immune from tort claims for official acts.

Even Laurence Tribe is being deliberately stupid. The opinion restores restraint and sanity. I'm sure Biden could be indicted for negligence about the border. Sotomeyor is irresponsible suggesting that assassinating your opponent is an official act. If the tables were turned I know democrats would be praising this decision. The partisanship has swallowed reason and even true liberalism.

Amen, brother.

[Omaha 680]

Everyone in politics is insane. Someone please go back to 2012 and prevent DJT from giving the sports almanac to himself.

[PaloAltoCougar]

Amen, brother.

Agreed, I spent two holes of golf today laying out for my friends what SU did in a couple of minutes.

[All-American]

The deliberate illiteracy about the law that democrats are evincing about this Supreme Court opinion on presidential immunity is shocking. It's as if they don't understand the meaning of presumptions, that they can be overcome, that what is an official act depends on fact finding by a trial court, I.e., a trial. Trump has not been given a free pass. Neither side won. All professions and public officials including journalists enjoy some kind of immunity.

The Supreme Court had already held decades ago that Nixon was immune from tort claims for official acts.

Even Laurence Tribe is being deliberately stupid. The opinion restores restraint and sanity. I'm sure Biden could be indicted for negligence about the border. Sotomeyor is irresponsible suggesting that assassinating your opponent is an official act. If the tables were turned I know democrats would be praising this decision. The partisanship has swallowed reason and even true liberalism.

That, and Democrats are forgetting how soon the tables WILL turn. Come this time next year, Trump will probably be president and Biden a former president. Maybe then immunity for official acts will seem like not such a bad thing after all?

[frank ryan]

That, and Democrats are forgetting how soon the tables WILL turn. Come this time next year, Trump will probably be president and Biden a former president. Maybe then immunity for official acts will seem like not such a bad thing after all?

Do you any distance in terms of the amount of ethical or legal concerns one might have about both of them? Or do you view the legitimacy or worries about Trump and Biden as relatively equal?

[Omaha 680]

Do you any distance in terms of the amount of ethical or legal concerns one might have about both of them? Or do you view the legitimacy or worries about Trump and Biden as relatively equal?

I don't see how that is relevant to the decision or the point AA was making. This was the correct decision and really quite important for stability going forward given these insane times and it is correct independent of what the relative risks of a Trump or Biden presidency are. The fact that so few who worry about Trump can recognize that is really something and speaks to how little most really care about the rule of law. By any means necessary I suppose.