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  • Bo Diddley
    Senior
    • Jul 2012
    • 18690

    #1876
    Originally posted by Paperback Writer View Post

    There are some similarities and difference between Afghanistan and Ukraine. As you well know, the similarities are supplying the fighting forces of an occupied country with modern weapons while they do the actually fighting. The differences are that Soviet Union/Russia never really considered Afghanistan their own turf and did not threaten nuclear arms - Afghanistan is more like Vietnam in that regard. Your concern about a nuclear show-down has validity in that the Soviet Union's failure in Afghanistan helped bring down the iron curtain and a similar failure by Russia in Ukraine might bring down Putin. But Putin could still retain power if Russia evacuates Ukraine. If a nuclear exchange occurs - he would surely lose power. I don't think a nuclear show-down becomes a greater threat as long as the Ukraine conflict does not cross into Russian borders in a major way.
    Provoking a major escalation is the concern. What if Russia were to nuke Kyiv? I think things could spiral out of control after something like that. Putin's the wild card here.

    The trick has been to escalate our support slowly. Pour just enough support into Ukraine so that they can push Russia back, but not so much (as you say) that they become a real military threat beyond their border.

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    • wuapinmon
      Soul Plumber
      • Dec 2008
      • 30711

      #1877
      https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarV..._home_village/
      Very nice video with subtitles of a Ukrainian soldier returning to his recently liberated village and talking to his young brothers.
      "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
      The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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      • myboynoah
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2008
        • 21719

        #1878
        I love seeing this, but is it structurally sound?

        Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

        For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

        Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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        • wuapinmon
          Soul Plumber
          • Dec 2008
          • 30711

          #1879
          Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post

          Most non needle necked wanker post of your life!
          I'll take that compliment!
          "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
          The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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          • wuapinmon
            Soul Plumber
            • Dec 2008
            • 30711

            #1880
            Ukrainian soldier close call with artillery...shows him taking shrapnel to the shoulder, no blood. https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota...ith_artillery/
            "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
            The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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            • wuapinmon
              Soul Plumber
              • Dec 2008
              • 30711

              #1881
              Zelensky ain't got no time for stoopid questions: Interview in English: https://t.me/znua_live/63173
              "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
              The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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              • wuapinmon
                Soul Plumber
                • Dec 2008
                • 30711

                #1882
                What a little bitch: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...s/10613303002/
                "Despite his repeated veiled references to Russia's nuclear arsenal in recent months, Putin said he has no intention of using such a weapon in Ukraine: “There is no point in that, neither political, nor military,” he said."
                "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
                The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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                • wuapinmon
                  Soul Plumber
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 30711

                  #1883
                  Wonderful video of a Ukrainian soldier sculpting murals into the side of his trench. Just lovely. I also shared this on my Facebook if you don't use Telegram.

                  Канал переїхав! Переходь за посиланням! 👇 👇 👇 https://t.me/+Gm71bgqplRViNTUy
                  "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
                  The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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                  • wuapinmon
                    Soul Plumber
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 30711

                    #1884
                    INTENSE COMBAT FOOTAGE! Ukrainians clearing a bunker, Russian soldier throws grenade, Ukrainians run for cover, grenade goes off IN THE BUNKER, Ukrainian switches to full auto, and lets the bunker have it.

                    https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota...ssian_dugouts/

                    Translation from the reddit comments:

                    Translation: “stop, fuck grenade!” “Threw it to himself dumbass”
                    "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
                    The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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                    • Bo Diddley
                      Senior
                      • Jul 2012
                      • 18690

                      #1885
                      Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
                      INTENSE COMBAT FOOTAGE! Ukrainians clearing a bunker, Russian soldier throws grenade, Ukrainians run for cover, grenade goes off IN THE BUNKER, Ukrainian switches to full auto, and lets the bunker have it.

                      https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota...ssian_dugouts/

                      Translation from the reddit comments:

                      Translation: “stop, fuck grenade!” “Threw it to himself dumbass”
                      There's a certain pucker factor when you throw a live grenade. Some people fold under the pressure.

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                      • wuapinmon
                        Soul Plumber
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 30711

                        #1886
                        English-speaking trainer (with Ukrainian translator), teaching people how to approach and clear a bunker. Goatnapper, what do you think of his instructions?

                        Ось так деякі бійці тренуються в окопах. Ситуація: розстріл русні в бункері ????
                        Канал переїхав! Переходь за посиланням! 👇 👇 👇 https://t.me/+Gm71bgqplRViNTUy


                        "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
                        The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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                        • wuapinmon
                          Soul Plumber
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 30711

                          #1887
                          Originally posted by Bo Diddley View Post

                          There's a certain pucker factor when you throw a live grenade. Some people fold under the pressure.
                          Those scenes in Band of Brothers where Joe Toye survives two closecalls in succession are amusing on a TV show, but probably left him as scarred mentally as Bastogne and losing his leg.
                          "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
                          The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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                          • wuapinmon
                            Soul Plumber
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 30711

                            #1888
                            Video that's making the rounds on Telegram of an alleged basic training camp for Russian callups. They are literally in a cattle facility under refugee-camp living conditions.
                            Канал переїхав! Переходь за посиланням! 👇 👇 👇 https://t.me/+Gm71bgqplRViNTUy
                            "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
                            The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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                            • wuapinmon
                              Soul Plumber
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 30711

                              #1889
                              https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota...ted_gepard_is/

                              Video of German Gepard AA system hitting Iranian suicide drones in the night.
                              "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
                              The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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                              • wuapinmon
                                Soul Plumber
                                • Dec 2008
                                • 30711

                                #1890
                                Nice, 4+ minute video in English about international volunteers who are training Ukrainians in tactics and medic skills. https://t.me/znua_live/63292
                                "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
                                The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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