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  • Originally posted by Green Monstah View Post
    The only issue with the gas reserves theory is that Russia is alienating its market in order to get gas to market. Now, these sanctions often are eased over time, but it certainly makes the war more risky.
    Maybe he anticipated that the sanctions wouldn't be particularly burdensome or long-lasting. How did the world react when he invaded Crimea? Georgia? Maybe he was expecting a similar response.
    "I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
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    • Originally posted by Green Monstah View Post
      The only issue with the gas reserves theory is that Russia is alienating its market in order to get gas to market. Now, these sanctions often are eased over time, but it certainly makes the war more risky.
      Trump called Putin's invasion "genius" and "savvy". Russian economy in the toilet, a pariah state, NATO stronger than ever, everyone divesting from Russia, etc. Good call, Trump. You idiot.
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      • Originally posted by Pelado View Post

        Maybe he anticipated that the sanctions wouldn't be particularly burdensome or long-lasting. How did the world react when he invaded Crimea? Georgia? Maybe he was expecting a similar response.
        I mean, the world sanctioned him for Crimea. Bigger real estate = more significant sanctions. Maybe I'm just the beneficiary of 20/20 hindsight....
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        • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

          Trump called Putin's invasion "genius" and "savvy". Russian economy in the toilet, a pariah state, NATO stronger than ever, everyone divesting from Russia, etc. Good call, Trump. You idiot.
          Like his keen analysis when he started the Trump mortgage company (RIP) on the eve of the market collapse, “I think it’s a great time to start a mortgage company.” Or when he declared that a (now defunct) videophone company was the wave of the future, just as smartphones were about to enter the market: But give him credit, he’s an all-time great salesman to a market of suckers.

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          • Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post

            Like his keen analysis when he started the Trump mortgage company (RIP) on the eve of the market collapse, “I think it’s a great time to start a mortgage company.” Or when he declared that a (now defunct) videophone company was the wave of the future, just as smartphones were about to enter the market: But give him credit, he’s an all-time great salesman to a market of suckers.
            Someone tried to sell me on that videophone. Or, rather, someone tried to sell me on the multi-level marketing company that was using that videophone as its product.
            "I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
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            • Originally posted by Pelado View Post

              Someone tried to sell me on that videophone. Or, rather, someone tried to sell me on the multi-level marketing company that was using that videophone as its product.
              Yeah, me too. At the time, I had a reasonably successful 30-year law practice and a young college grad tried to get me to join his downline. At the end of the presentation, I tried to be nice but I still laughed at what I was certain was a bad idea. Among his canned responses, "But, Donald Trump backs it!!!" That didn't sweeten the deal...

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              • This doesn't sound good, if true... BTW, how long does it take for a missile flying at mach 20 to get here from Russia?

                Putin 'moves family members to Siberian 'underground city' designed to survive a nuclear war', says Russian professor who also claimed Vladimir is suffering from secret illness
                • Valery Solovey, 61, is a political scientist and former professor in Moscow
                • He claims Putin has sent his family to a nuclear bunker in the Altai Mountains
                • He recently underwent an interrogation for claims he made about Putin
                • Solovey believes Putin is struggling with physical and mental illnesses
                ladimir Putin has in recent days hidden his family members in an 'underground city' in Siberia, according to a Russian professor.

                The luxury hi-tech bunker is located in the Altai Mountains and was designed for protection in the event of nuclear war, said political scientist Valery Solovey, 61.

                Formerly a professor at Moscow State Institute of International Relations (MGIMO) - attended by future top diplomats and spies, Solovey has previously alleged Putin suffers medical problems hidden from the Russian public, and has taken part in bizarre secret shamanic rituals alongside his defence minister Sergey Shoigu.
                [...]
                https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...clear-war.html

                Well, if a bunch of people get vaporized then maybe that will solve the global warming problem, along with the nuclear winter.
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                • Wow!



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                  Last edited by Bo Diddley; 03-01-2022, 04:10 PM.

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                  • Originally posted by Bo Diddley View Post
                    seemed crazy to have these nuts to butts columns of equipment
                    Te Occidere Possunt Sed Te Edere Non Possunt Nefas Est.

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                    • Originally posted by old_gregg View Post

                      seemed crazy to have these nuts to butts columns of equipment
                      The Air Force keeps wanting to decommission our A10 fleet because F35's can supposedly perform ground support missions. I'd be ok with giving Ukraine a few to go crazy on that 40 mile long convoy coming in to Kyiv.

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                      • Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
                        This doesn't sound good, if true... BTW, how long does it take for a missile flying at mach 20 to get here from Russia?


                        https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...clear-war.html

                        Well, if a bunch of people get vaporized then maybe that will solve the global warming problem, along with the nuclear winter.
                        Doesn't sound true, so I think we're good.
                        Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

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                        • Originally posted by Bo Diddley View Post

                          The Air Force keeps wanting to decommission our A10 fleet because F35's can supposedly perform ground support missions. I'd be ok with giving Ukraine a few to go crazy on that 40 mile long convoy coming in to Kyiv.
                          My mom's uncle had a major leadership role in the design and development of the A-10. It was fun to talk with him about it - he could not have been more proud.
                          "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                          "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                          "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                          • Originally posted by old_gregg View Post

                            seemed crazy to have these nuts to butts columns of equipment
                            Yeah, the news kept hyping this "40-mile-long coluumn of military vehicles" heading to Kyiv. I'm thinking, that just sounds like a disaster and stupid. Who is running this thing? How do you support that logistically? Where is the off ramp?

                            Well, I guess gettig rid of Ukranian nazis is not an easy task.
                            Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

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                            • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

                              My mom's uncle had a major leadership role in the design and development of the A-10. It was fun to talk with him about it - he could not have been more proud.
                              Wow. So cool. I've admired that machine for a long time. So well designed!

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                              • As depressed as I was at the initial invasion, I am very heartened by Europe's response. Their commitments weapons to Ukraine, increase defense spending, and now take Ukraine into the EU would have been unthinkable two weeks ago. Again much of the credit goes to the Ukrainians. They held out long enough for the west finally get on the same page and their resistance is so inspirational it demands support.

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