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  • Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post

    Fair point. And avoid windows on higher floors.
    And stairs.
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    • Russian drones enter airspace of NATO member:

      https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/09/europ...ts-intl-hnk-ml
      Poland’s military said early Wednesday that it had shot down drones that violated its airspace during a Russian attack on neighboring Ukraine, the first time it has taken such a step in what is a major provocation for Europe and NATO forces.

      “This is an act of aggression that posed a real threat to the safety of our citizens,” said Poland’s Operation Command in a post on X Wednesday morning.

      Prime Minister Donald Tusk said Polish airspace was violated by “a huge number of Russian drones” that were shot down. He said he was in constant communication with the secretary general of NATO and Poland’s allies.
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      • Originally posted by Pelado View Post
        Russian drones enter airspace of NATO member:

        https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/09/europ...ts-intl-hnk-ml
        Yikes, this seems like a pretty big deal.

        I think it was about 15 years ago I would have never thought the world could ever come to an end...but it seems like a there's at least a small probability of it happening in some form or fashion thanks to dictators and idiot presidents.
        "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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        • I'm always asked here if I break with Trump about anything. One of those things is Ukraine. Treating Russia with kid gloves is just going to embolden them. My view is NATO should drive Russia out of Ukraine. If Russia wants to cause further problems, it will also be tossed out of Crimea by force. Being wimpy while Putin continues to build power is dumb.

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          • Originally posted by Moliere View Post

            Yikes, this seems like a pretty big deal.

            I think it was about 15 years ago I would have never thought the world could ever come to an end...but it seems like a there's at least a small probability of it happening in some form or fashion thanks to dictators and idiot presidents.
            There has been a lot of chatter that this war would spill over into Poland and the Baltics. Putin is not going to stop with Ukraine

            Our ability to gather accurate intel and to be trusted by partners to receive intel has been damaged greatly by Trump and people like Gabbard and Hegseth. Not good

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            • are the other russia higher ups going to get sick of losing a generation?

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              • Originally posted by frank ryan View Post

                There has been a lot of chatter that this war would spill over into Poland and the Baltics. Putin is not going to stop with Ukraine

                Our ability to gather accurate intel and to be trusted by partners to receive intel has been damaged greatly by Trump and people like Gabbard and Hegseth. Not good
                This really appears to be Putin testing NATO and their response. If judged to be soft expect him to start trying to mess with Moldova maybe first if he can push through the front lines and then make plans for the Balticss with possibly Finland and Poland as future objectives. He thinks he can play the long game, but all of those countries he has in his sights. Trump will ultimately have a predictable horribly weak response to this.

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                • Originally posted by BlueK View Post

                  This really appears to be Putin testing NATO and their response. If judged to be soft expect him to start trying to mess with Moldova maybe first if he can push through the front lines and then make plans for the Balticss with possibly Finland and Poland as future objectives. He thinks he can play the long game, but all of those countries he has in his sights. Trump will ultimately have a predictable horribly weak response to this.
                  He already has troops inside Moldovan territory. Transnistria also has soldiers Moscow could order into action. That would seem the most obvious next target, but I feel like Putin is extra brazen right now.

                  India publicly pushed back against tariffs meant to punish them for buying Russian oil (funny Russia was not given any new sanctions by Trump).

                  I think India's show of unity with Moscow and China is rattling and a concerning change.

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                    • TACO
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                      • TACO
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                        • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                          TACO
                          beat me by a minute.
                          Jesus wants me for a sunbeam.

                          "Cog dis is a bitch." -James Patterson

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                          • Originally posted by Green Monstah View Post

                            beat me by a minute.
                            Great minds. Yada yada...
                            "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                            "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                            "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                            • This flip-flop is incredible. Can't wait to see MAGA start putting Ukraine flags in bios.

                              "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                              "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                              "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                              • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                                This flip-flop is incredible. Can't wait to see MAGA start putting Ukraine flags in bios.

                                I am in awe of Trump's courage to reverse course when necessary. Being adaptable is the first step toward achieving success in any noble pursuit! Name me another POTUS who possessed the testicular fortitude to adapt like this!! GET THIS MAN ON MT RUSHMORE, NOW!!

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