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  • I don't have time to find a relevant article but it sounds like pentagon released a policy paper explaining how they are shifting policy away from allies and partners (as if we have any left at this point). And will be direct with Russia and China rather than confrontational. Putin approves of the shift of course.

    This is exactly what I worried about with Trump from the get-go. He's been so great for Moscow.

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    • Ukraine is using Ground-Combat Drones in the battle against Russia. Video footage shows 3-russian soldiers who surrender to a Combat-Drone. This is a Ukrainian built drone. They are using tactics and evolution of warfare against Russia and it is amazing to watch a small country stand up to the bully (Russia). This should show the whole world how weak Russia is militarily..

      Shocking video footage has emerged exposing what looks like the first ever recorded case of multiple Russian soldiers surrendering to a ground combat robot.

      Three of Putin's troops gave themselves up to a Ukrainian tracked ground drone armed with a machine gun.
      https://www.the-express.com/news/wor...historic-first

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      • It's like a video game.

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        • Originally posted by dabrockster View Post
          Ukraine is using Ground-Combat Drones in the battle against Russia. Video footage shows 3-russian soldiers who surrender to a Combat-Drone. This is a Ukrainian built drone. They are using tactics and evolution of warfare against Russia and it is amazing to watch a small country stand up to the bully (Russia). This should show the whole world how weak Russia is militarily..



          https://www.the-express.com/news/wor...historic-first
          cool and scary

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          • Originally posted by Shaka View Post
            It's like a video game.
            They have changed the nature of combat. Crazy.
            Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

            For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

            Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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            • Originally posted by BigPiney View Post

              cool and scary
              I'll be honesty. If Ukraine has created these capabilities. I can only imagine what we have created that has never been deployed or used. And if we don't.. WTF!

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              • Originally posted by dabrockster View Post

                I'll be honesty. If Ukraine has created these capabilities. I can only imagine what we have created that has never been deployed or used. And if we don't.. WTF!
                Actually, I would bet that we are learning from the Ukrainians, not the other way around.
                Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                • Originally posted by myboynoah View Post

                  Actually, I would bet that we are learning from the Ukrainians, not the other way around.
                  I don't think the Ukranians did that on their own. That tech came from somewhere else, being fed under the table, and is being beta-tested in that theater.

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                  • Originally posted by myboynoah View Post

                    Actually, I would bet that we are learning from the Ukrainians, not the other way around.
                    I think there's a lot of truth to this. I think one of the outcomes of this war is that Poland/Ukraine will become powerhouse weapons manufacturers, assuming Ukraine can install a stable government. They're developing technical expertise in real world combat conditions that can't be replicated in a simulated environment.

                    On the other hand, it's providing China with the same opportunity. China isn't providing Russia with military weapons systems, but they are providing them with tooling, machinery, components, and intelligence. But China is getting a very deep look into how their commercial products are being inexpensively repurposed into weaponry at scale on both sides of the conflict. That's valuable, especially considering that Chinese weapons systems are essentially untested in warfare.

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                    • Originally posted by myboynoah View Post

                      Actually, I would bet that we are learning from the Ukrainians, not the other way around.
                      I just saw this press release today from the Dept of War announcing 25 awardees for Phase I of the Drone Dominance Program. Among them was Ukrainian Defense Drones Tech Corp. I thought that was interesting.

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                      • Kyle Collingsworth has been all over Twitter trying to convince folks that Putin and Russia are not so bad and no worse than America.

                        Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                        For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                        Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                        • Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                          For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                          Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                          • Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
                            Kyle Collingsworth has been all over Twitter trying to convince folks that Putin and Russia are not so bad and no worse than America.

                            He is an idiot.
                            "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                            "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                            "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                            • Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
                              Kyle Collingsworth has been all over Twitter trying to convince folks that Putin and Russia are not so bad and no worse than America.

                              That's where he served his mission right? (this is not meant to excuse him)

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                              • Originally posted by Clark Addison View Post

                                That's where he served his mission right? (this is not meant to excuse him)
                                Yes. He met a lot of Russians who were good people. Therefore Putin must be a good person. Q. E. D.
                                "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                                "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                                "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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