The 2016 Presidential Election Trainwreck

[SeattleUte]

Doesn't surprise me given all those crazy Utah women that are still voting for Trump.

It's a result of oppression. It's actually not funny.

[RC Vikings]

lol @ Gary Johnson. He can't even come in 3rd place in Utah.

Johnson did Kona (Ironman) in 10 hours 39 minutes, that's reason enough for me to vote for him.

[Northwestcoug]

Just in case we forgot there are many other reasons besides sexual assault to be afraid of Trump:

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[creekster]

It's a result of oppression. It's actually not funny.

Please, tell us more. Then, when you're done, perhaps you can wander over to the sports fora and drop some prophetic words of wisdom to help us, you know, out of kindness?

[myboynoah]

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[creekster]

If Trump's behvaior towards women disqualifies him from being president (and it should, IMO) why didnt WJC's behavior towards women disqualify him?

[Northwestcoug]

If Trump's behvaior towards women disqualifies him from being president (and it should, IMO) why didnt WJC's behavior towards women disqualify him?

Seen on facebook today:

Bill Clinton is a lying, cheating asshole. Donald Trump is a lying, cheating asshole. I'm not going to vote for either one of those dudes.

[byu71]

These ongoing e-mail leaks of democrat officials just confirm what I have thought, they have great disdain for anyone that doesn't think like them. They are very good at trying to sound quite the opposite.

Dipshit Trump though twitters out his disdain for all of us to watch.

Politically Trump's method is worse and besides the e-mails were stolen so we shouldn't condemn people for what they said in an e-mail that was stolen.

[SeattleUte]

If Trump's behvaior towards women disqualifies him from being president (and it should, IMO) why didnt WJC's behavior towards women disqualify him?

Did Bill Clinton ever brag about sexually assaulting women?

[BlueK]

It's a result of oppression. It's actually not funny.

Trump only has 26% overall support in Utah according to the most recent poll. Try again.

[byu71]

Did Bill Clinton ever brag about sexually assaulting women?

Excellent point. If you are a slimeball but don't brag about it, there is something endearing about you to some people.

[creekster]

Did Bill Clinton ever brag about sexually assaulting women?

Is that the difference? Bragging where he can be recorded? So it isnt the action and the attitude that constitute a character flaw, its just the fact that it was bragged about publicaly? If he kept it quiet and didn't allow it to be recorded it would have been fine?

[BlueK]

Excellent point. If you are a slimeball but don't brag about it, there is something endearing about you to some people.

Maybe bringing Bill into this makes sense in Trump's mind but I don't see how it helps him. He's basically asking the voters to believe that all the Bill accusers are truthful while all the dozens of Trump accusers are lying. Bizarre logic, but logic isn't Trump's strength, obviously.

[creekster]

Maybe bringing Bill into this makes sense in Trump's mind but I don't see how it helps him. He's basically asking the voters to believe what some women are accusing Bill of having done while at the same time believing that the ones accusing Trump of the same things are all lying. Bizarre logic, but logic isn't Trump's strength, obviously.

I dont think thats why he is doing it. I think it is more along the lines of Trump both trying to make it look like EVERYBODY does it, even the beloved WJC, and trying to so saturate the public discourse with denials and accusations and back and forths that the entire issue is mooted out.

I asked the question not as a defense of trump. to the contrary, I never understood why WJC got such a pass. I wondered wherein lies the difference? The esteemed SU braved the toxic atmosphere here to tell me that the difference lies in the fact that trump bragged publicly. Is that all? If so, that disappoints me.

[byu71]

Maybe bringing Bill into this makes sense in Trump's mind but I don't see how it helps him. He's basically asking the voters to believe what some women are accusing Bill of having done while at the same time believing that the ones accusing Trump of the same things are all lying. Bizarre logic, but logic isn't Trump's strength, obviously.

I think most everyone on here would agree the two parties have given us a lousy, rotten, stinking choice. They both have done abusive things to other people. I fear for the country either way.

It isn't which has the largest character flaws for me, it is which one could do the most damage to what I would want our countries path to be going forward.