The 2016 Presidential Election Trainwreck

[Topper]

I refuse to watch any of either party's convention this cycle. Nothing of value.

Yay! A convert! Here's to converting the whole world.

[Moliere]

And maybe this makes me old school but if you cheat on and divorce the Mom then you don't get to be World's Greatest Dad. Smh

Yeah, that makes you fit in with the whacko Repubs. Why can't you be a great dad and also be divorced?

I refuse to watch any of either party's convention this cycle. Nothing of value.

I've only watched one speech from a convention in my entire life and it was when Mitt spoke 4 years ago. I don't plan on watching any other speech unless another Mormon gets nominated.

[Uncle Ted]

I refuse to watch any of either party's convention this cycle. Nothing of value.

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[PaloAltoCougar]

And maybe this makes me old school but if you cheat on and divorce the Mom then you don't get to be World's Greatest Dad. Smh

Yeah, that makes you fit in with the whacko Repubs. Why can't you be a great dad and also be divorced?

Count me in with CC. It's certainly not the divorce(s) that disqualify Drumpf as a great dad; it's the circumstances that led to the divorces, not to mention Drumpf boasting repeatedly about all the beautiful, married women he's slept with. I'll allow that divorce can make some men even better fathers, but the repeated breaking of marital vows and bragging about screwing the wives of others ought to remove one from contention for Father of the Year.

That said, I think Drumpf kids did very well last night and they've impressed me. I'll give Ivana and Marla Maples some credit here.

[byu71]

An observation on politics. Pundits, supporters, et. al. will spin a situation to suit themselves. The saying, I am looking at this objectively, should be struck from our dialogue. It is like Lemon last night when he asked a Trump supporter why was Trump.....and the person answered "well Hillary" and Lemon cut him off and said we are talking about Trump not Hillary, stick to what we are talking about. A while later they were talking about Hillary and the guy said something and Lemon countered with, ya but Trump.

As far as Trump goes, he is a loudmouth man who has raised his kids well and credit to their moms too.

I could switch my vote to Hillary if you tell me from my perspective of the world, how Hillary would make things better than Trump. Not presentation, but results.

I am OK with this because I have no desire to change anyones opinion on here, but do I understand those on here supporting Hillary have no problem with how the Supreme Court is going to look in the future?

[SeattleUte]

Count me in with CC. It's certainly not the divorce(s) that disqualify Drumpf as a great dad; it's the circumstances that led to the divorces, not to mention Drumpf boasting repeatedly about all the beautiful, married women he's slept with. I'll allow that divorce can make some men even better fathers, but the repeated breaking of marital vows and bragging about screwing the wives of others ought to remove one from contention for Father of the Year.

That said, I think Drumpf kids did very well last night and they've impressed me. I'll give Ivana and Marla Maples some credit here.

The problem with democracy is it devolves to considerations like this pablum. This is why the plagiarism scandal mattered. Conventions, particularly this one, are nothing if not superficial.

[SeattleUte]

An observation on politics. Pundits, supporters, et. al. will spin a situation to suit themselves. The saying, I am looking at this objectively, should be struck from our dialogue. It is like Lemon last night when he asked a Trump supporter why was Trump.....and the person answered "well Hillary" and Lemon cut him off and said we are talking about Trump not Hillary, stick to what we are talking about. A while later they were talking about Hillary and the guy said something and Lemon countered with, ya but Trump.

As far as Trump goes, he is a loudmouth man who has raised his kids well and credit to their moms too.

I could switch my vote to Hillary if you tell me from my perspective of the world, how Hillary would make things better than Trump. Not presentation, but results.

I am OK with this because I have no desire to change anyones opinion on here, but do I understand those on here supporting Hillary have no problem with how the Supreme Court is going to look in the future?

Trump hasn't "raised" his kids, you idiot. What he's done is buy them off. Your "credit to their moms too" comment is really offensive.

[byu71]

Trump hasn't "raised" his kids, you idiot. What he's done is buy them off. Your "credit to their moms too" comment is really offensive.

LOL

[PaloAltoCougar]

Trump hasn't "raised" his kids, you idiot. What he's done is buy them off. Your "credit to their moms too" comment is really offensive.

Yeah, the idea that Trump had anything to do with raising his kids (other than, perhaps, strict enforcement of no tobacco or alcohols use, and giving them millions of dollars) is laughable. Ivana's kids went to boarding schools and she was essentially the sole caregiver when they weren't away. Marla and Tiffany have both said many times that Marla was the only one who raised Tiffany. But yes, none of this would matter much to me if Trump had some strong policy plans and were a thoughtful, strong leader.

[SeattleUte]

Yeah, the idea that Trump had anything to do with raising his kids (other than, perhaps, strict enforcement of no tobacco or alcohols use, and giving them millions of dollars) is laughable. Ivana's kids went to boarding schools and she was essentially the sole caregiver when they weren't away. Marla and Tiffany have both said many times that Marla was the only one who raised Tiffany. But yes, none of this would matter much to me if Trump had some strong policy plans and were a thoughtful, strong leader.

The person who has maybe been most entertaining and articulate in condemning Trump is Oxcoug, on social media. He's also admirably stalwart in his hatred of Trump. No rationalizing.

[byu71]

Yeah, the idea that Trump had anything to do with raising his kids (other than, perhaps, strict enforcement of no tobacco or alcohols use, and giving them millions of dollars) is laughable. Ivana's kids went to boarding schools and she was essentially the sole caregiver when they weren't away. Marla and Tiffany have both said many times that Marla was the only one who raised Tiffany. But yes, none of this would matter much to me if Trump had some strong policy plans and were a thoughtful, strong leader.

Wow, as good a friends as we have been and hope we still are I never thought you would side with me being an idiot?

[old_gregg]

Wow, as good a friends as we have been and hope we still are I never thought you would side with me being an idiot?

to be fair, you really leave him no choice

[byu71]

to be fair, you really leave him no choice

To be fair, you always show up as a tag along shadow.

[Jeff Lebowski]

to be fair, you really leave him no choice

[Jeff Lebowski]

The person who has maybe been most entertaining and articulate in condemning Trump is Oxcoug, on social media. He's also admirably stalwart in his hatred of Trump. No rationalizing.

Indeed. Ox is great.