The Police Brutality Thread

[Commando]

What blows my mind a bit is how the officer either doesn't notice or care at any point in the video about the guy filming on the other side of the fence. It doesn't seem that the person was making any attempts at being inconspicuous about it either.

I actually thought he was being coy with how he was shooting it, not zooming in unflinchingly like you would when something crazy is going down but sort of sauntering around the scene and aiming away from the subject now and again.

[Dwight Schr-ute]

Yep. Thank goodness the crime was captured on film or he might still be on the force!

[old_gregg]

There was a case in Utah where the victim (a white man) refused to listen to a cop and turned to walk away during a traffic stop. The cop tased him and because he had a weak heart or something, it killed him. He was no danger to the cop-- the cop was just pissed that he wouldn't obey him. Cops need to learn to control their impulses and if they cannot, then they shouldn't be policemen.

come on, you don't see any reason why a cop would be worried about a noncompliant guy turning around and walking away?

[smokymountainrain]

I say it every time. The penalty for running from the cops should not be death.

There was a case in Utah where the victim (a white man) refused to listen to a cop and turned to walk away during a traffic stop. The cop tased him and because he had a weak heart or something, it killed him. He was no danger to the cop-- the cop was just pissed that he wouldn't obey him. Cops need to learn to control their impulses and if they cannot, then they shouldn't be policemen.

In this latest case, the cop just looked mad because the perp was running away. He could have run after him, or called in backup. Wasnt there a fence right there to prevent the older, heavyset guy from running very far? We're not talking a 17 year old.

hmmmm...

[Katy Lied]

It turns out if you take two taser shots directly to the heart, you can die.

[smokymountainrain]

It turns out if you take two taser shots directly to the heart, you can die.

So cop knew he would kill the guy? IOW, he knew about the heart condition?

[creekster]

So cop knew he would kill the guy? IOW, he knew about the heart condition?

Who cares if he knew? The guy is DEAD. For a traffic stop? No imminent threat to anyone or anything?

[Commando]

I saw some dude on fb defending the cop in some thread, talking about the guy took the cop's taser and the cop might not have seen the guy drop the taser as he belaboredly jogged away, so at that point the cop was protecting the community by opening fire. The only thing that was in immediate danger from that guy was a meatball sub.

[smokymountainrain]

Who cares if he knew? The guy is DEAD. For a traffic stop? No imminent threat to anyone or anything?

I may get a HLS from DH on this one, but oh well.

She said the penalty for running shouldn't be death. In that case the penalty wasn't death, it was taser. Tasers are not generally lethal. Whether or not the officer had knowledge of the heart condition is relevant in this case. SJBH

[Dwight Schr-ute]

So cop knew he would kill the guy? IOW, he knew about the heart condition?

$2 million dollars says he should have known something.

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/55...taser.html.csp

[old_gregg]

Who cares if he knew? The guy is DEAD. For a traffic stop? No imminent threat to anyone or anything?

if it's just a traffic stop, then there's no reason not to comply with the cop. if the guy is walking back to his car while the cop is telling him not to, what is the cop supposed to do? wait to see if he grabs a gun out of the car?

[Dwight Schr-ute]

I may get a HLS from DH on this one, but oh well.

She said the penalty for running shouldn't be death. In that case the penalty wasn't death, it was taser. Tasers are not generally lethal. Whether or not the officer had knowledge of the heart condition is relevant in this case. SJBH

Tasers are a generally non-lethal tool for protecting the officer. They are not supposed to be used to subdue the suspect. Brian Cardall did not deserve to die. And did not deserve to even be tasered.

[smokymountainrain]

Tasers are a generally non-lethal tool for protecting the officer. They are not supposed to be used to subdue the suspect. Brian Cardall did not deserve to die. And did not deserve to even be tasered.

Thanks for that, because I'm definitely saying he deserved to die. Hell, I didn't even say he deserved to be tasered.

Don't be a dumbass.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Don't be a dumbass.

Good advice for all of us!

[Eddie]

$2 million dollars says he should have known something.

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/55...taser.html.csp

Isn't this just another example of things gone horribly wrong?

The dude is taking off his clothing and darting in and out of traffic. The wife calls the police for help. What are they supposed to do? They were in a no-win situation. They can't stop the guy, so he keeps running in and out of traffic and eventually causes an accident in which he may or may not be hit and killed or others trying to avoid hitting him may or may not wreck and be seriously injured or killed.

Or, they try to stop the guy by using a tazer, which they don't believe to be deadly, and it results in his death.

I don't think this guy needed to die either. But would those who are so upset at the police propose another solution to what they should've done? I'm not saying there aren't other options. I'm saying a horrible accident happened here in which no harm was intended - and either way the police were going to look bad. Unless they just didn't respond and luckily nothing happened to the guy as he jumped in and out of traffic.

Crazy story.