A Funny Thing Happened on the Way To Jerusalem: Gaza/Israel conflict

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  • Uncle Ted
    The Big 12 money shot.
    • Apr 2010
    • 28853

    #841
    Originally posted by Maximus View Post
    So bibis aide was leaking classified Intel in order to kill hostage deals

    Hmm
    I wonder if the US just cut funding this war would help bring Bibi to negotiation table.
    "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
    "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
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    • frank ryan
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2008
      • 12278

      #842
      Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post

      I wonder if the US just cut funding this war would help bring Bibi to negotiation table.
      if Trump wins and Russia wants to cut Israel off of their funding. I'm sure it would happen.

      But make no mistake, Ron Paul's foreign policy, which is Vance's is insipid. Isolationism is a good way to make American struggle

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      • Maximus
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 6010

        #843
        he fired the defense minister in the middle of the war.

        bibi might be worse than trump

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        • frank ryan
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2008
          • 12278

          #844
          Originally posted by Maximus View Post
          he fired the defense minister in the middle of the war.

          bibi might be worse than trump
          He is a lot more competent than Trump. He is worse oddly corrupt and isn't in doubt. He is a very contentious figure in Israel.

          He also has been a bit too partisan for an ally head of state.

          Trump is the biggest snowfake in American politics and he is wildly manipulatable. Bibi is smarter

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          • Uncle Ted
            The Big 12 money shot.
            • Apr 2010
            • 28853

            #845
            Well, how about that… https://www.newsweek.com/hamas-calls...on-win-1981571



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            "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
            "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
            "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
            GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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            • beefytee
              Board eye candy
              • Mar 2009
              • 7542

              #846
              All our problems will be gone now with trump in charge!

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              • Moliere
                One man.....one pie
                • Oct 2009
                • 27807

                #847
                Originally posted by beefytee View Post
                All our problems will be gone now with trump in charge!
                He’ll end the war in 24 hours!
                "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                • Maximus
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 6010

                  #848
                  Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
                  hamas has been calling an end to the war since october 8th 2023

                  if only they had some people they could release for the end of the war

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                  • falafel
                    loves to talk on things
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 37886

                    #849
                    Originally posted by Moliere View Post

                    He’ll end the war in 24 hours!
                    Ukraine is already East-Russia. The rest of the world should be "fixed" by bed time. Check your tweets.
                    Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

                    Dig your own grave, and save!

                    "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

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                    GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                    • PaloAltoCougar
                      Semper infra dignitatem
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 16917

                      #850
                      Originally posted by falafel View Post

                      Ukraine is already East-Russia. The rest of the world should be "fixed" by bed time. Check your tweets.
                      I was more worried about Ukraine's fate than ours if Trump were elected. It'd be nice to end the war sooner rather than later but that will impossible to do without letting Putin keep the Donbas (Ukrainian for "Sudentenland"). I'm truly puzzled that anyone thinks that would be enough to satisfy the Russian bear. Putin has said that the break-up of the Soviet Union was the biggest geopolitical catastrophe of the 20th Century, and given his previous occupation and skillset, it seems vividly clear that he wants to reunite it, even if most of the former Soviet entities want none of it. I fear he'll play Trump like the proverbial fiddle and make substantial progress toward his goal.

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                      • frank ryan
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 12278

                        #851
                        Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post

                        I was more worried about Ukraine's fate than ours if Trump were elected. It'd be nice to end the war sooner rather than later but that will impossible to do without letting Putin keep the Donbas (Ukrainian for "Sudentenland"). I'm truly puzzled that anyone thinks that would be enough to satisfy the Russian bear. Putin has said that the break-up of the Soviet Union was the biggest geopolitical catastrophe of the 20th Century, and given his previous occupation and skillset, it seems vividly clear that he wants to reunite it, even if most of the former Soviet entities want none of it. I fear he'll play Trump like the proverbial fiddle and make substantial progress toward his goal.
                        In the time that's left, Biden should let Ukraine use the weapons given to them however they please. Moldova is on the chopping block next.

                        Check out a summary of Alexander Duggins "Foundations of Geopolitics." It's encouraged reading for Russian military and intelligence recruits and it's depressingly consistent with current events. As a bonus, Tucker Carlson interviewed its admittedly fascist author, when he was on his non-biased journalistic expedition to Russia.

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                        • Maximus
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 6010

                          #852
                          So there's no more war objectives in Gaza
                          The pm had his chief of Staff alter records and leak Intel on hostage deal in order to kill it

                          The war continues just to make bibi avoid court and inquiries .

                          Will trump really get him to finally end it and face voters ? Doubt it

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                          • YOhio
                            Hipster Mode
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 26165

                            #853
                            Hey a ceasefire deal!

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                            • frank ryan
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 12278

                              #854
                              Originally posted by Maximus View Post
                              So there's no more war objectives in Gaza
                              The pm had his chief of Staff alter records and leak Intel on hostage deal in order to kill it

                              The war continues just to make bibi avoid court and inquiries .

                              Will trump really get him to finally end it and face voters ? Doubt it
                              Bibi is not a good guy but I hope this ceasefire holds.

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                              • Bo Diddley
                                Senior
                                • Jul 2012
                                • 18720

                                #855
                                Arab nations are working to submit an alternate proposal to turning Gaza into a seaside resort.

                                The latest Egyptian proposal involves forming a national Palestinian committee to govern Gaza without Hamas involvement, international participation in reconstruction without displacing Palestinians abroad, and movement towards a two-state solution, three Egyptian security sources said.
                                A buffer zone and physical barrier would be erected to stop tunnels being built across Gaza's border with Egypt. As soon as rubble is removed, 20 areas would be established as temporary living zones. Around 50 Egyptian and other foreign companies would be brought in to carry out the work.
                                They might even propose to Trump that he puts his name to give him credit.

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