2024 Presidential Election Thread

[Uncle Ted]

I've been traveling for work this past week and haven't spent much time online. I checked Twitter today and everything is about JD Vance having sex with a couch. Good lord. I hate this shit so much. There's enough about JD Vance to criticize without lying. There's enough of Kamala Harris to criticize without mentioning past romances, race, stepkids, or the way she laughs. We get awful people in politics because they're the only ones willing to put their family through this evil.

There isn't much to criticize Kamala Harris about because she has done nothing as vice president and the democratic party is attempting to erase the history of the things she was asked to do as vice president, like being the border "czar", in "1984, Ministry of Truth" style. In fact, the Dems or her campaign even recently had the GovTrack website scrubbed that named her the most liberal senator. So how does one criticize someone that has very little history of doing anything and what history she has she doesn't want to be remembered for? The list of Biden-Harris accomplishments is pretty short, man:

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[Jeff Lebowski]

I've been traveling for work this past week and haven't spent much time online. I checked Twitter today and everything is about JD Vance having sex with a couch. Good lord. I hate this shit so much. There's enough about JD Vance to criticize without lying. There's enough of Kamala Harris to criticize without mentioning past romances, race, stepkids, or the way she laughs. We get awful people in politics because they're the only ones willing to put their family through this evil.

To be fair, the couch thing came from his book. It actually happened.

[myboynoah]

To be fair, the couch thing came from his book. It actually happened.

Really? Yikes. I thought it was made up.

Did the Trump team even read the book?

[myboynoah]

Such a non-issue. But MAGA has never been consistent. Remember last election when they simultaneously chanted "Stop the count!" in Philadelphia and "Count the vote!" in Phoenix? Trump was still up in Pennsylvania and down in Arizona.

It's a cult.

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[Copelius]

Did Trump ever read a book?

FIFY

[Uncle Ted]

Trump is going back to Butler, Pennsylvania...

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I guess to give them another shot.

[Maximus]

There isn't much to criticize Kamala Harris about because she has done nothing as vice president and the democratic party is attempting to erase the history of the things she was asked to do as vice president, like being the border "czar", in "1984, Ministry of Truth" style. In fact, the Dems or her campaign even recently had the GovTrack website scrubbed that named her the most liberal senator. So how does one criticize someone that has very little history of doing anything and what history she has she doesn't want to be remembered for? The list of Biden-Harris accomplishments is pretty short, man:

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can you explain how biden is responsible for hamas?

[Donuthole]

To be fair, the couch thing came from his book. It actually happened.

I don't think that's true. I wish it were, but I don't think it is.

[Uncle Ted]

can you explain how biden is responsible for hamas?

Grandpa Joe's VP is the spokesman for Hamas...

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[Jeff Lebowski]

I don't think that's true. I wish it were, but I don't think it is.

I stand corrected. A very specific reference from the book that was apparently fabricated.

[myboynoah]

I stand corrected. A very specific reference from the book that was apparently fabricated.

Maybe Trump did read the book.

[USUC]

While revel in Trump and his team shooting themselves in the foot by poor policy positions and choosing JD Vance as VP (apparently Trump wanted Burgum but his two doofus sons freaked out at him and swayed him to Vance), I am genuinely appalled by the frankly Orwellian behavior by the cultural institutions to manufacture an untruthful reality of Kamala Harris.

The legacy media, Wikipedia, "fact checkers," party talking heads, elected officials, etc blatant denial of reality is Soviet. Despite ample proof and established recognition by everybody, she all of a sudden was never designated the point person to tackle the immigration problem, never had anything to do with raising funds for violent protestors legal bills, and general erasure of everything she has ever done or said that is perceived negative. The "independent" GovTrack deleted their rating of her while she was a Senator because she was rated left of Bernie Sanders. It was up for 4 years until this week. CNN, ABC, CBS, NYT all starting to downplay her connection to the Biden adminstration and avoid discussing the legacy of her 2020 campaign.This is 100% unacceptable and I don't give a damn how bad Trump is.

[myboynoah]

Mitt is happening!

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[falafel]

Manu loves to talk to Mitt.

[myboynoah]

While revel in Trump and his team shooting themselves in the foot by poor policy positions and choosing JD Vance as VP (apparently Trump wanted Burgum but his two doofus sons freaked out at him and swayed him to Vance), I am genuinely appalled by the frankly Orwellian behavior by the cultural institutions to manufacture an untruthful reality of Kamala Harris.

The legacy media, Wikipedia, "fact checkers," party talking heads, elected officials, etc blatant denial of reality is Soviet. Despite ample proof and established recognition by everybody, she all of a sudden was never designated the point person to tackle the immigration problem, never had anything to do with raising funds for violent protestors legal bills, and general erasure of everything she has ever done or said that is perceived negative. The "independent" GovTrack deleted their rating of her while she was a Senator because she was rated left of Bernie Sanders. It was up for 4 years until this week. CNN, ABC, CBS, NYT all starting to downplay her connection to the Biden adminstration and avoid discussing the legacy of her 2020 campaign.This is 100% unacceptable and I don't give a damn how bad Trump is.

Quite the list. We're still early in the game on some of these. It's only been a few days.

Media avoiding the legacy of her 2020 campaign. I don't understand the issue here. Are you upset they aren't focusing how it was unsuccessful? Doesn't seem that relevant to me as she and Biden were subsequently elected and she served the past 3.5 years a VP. Anyway, everyone knows that she ran unsuccessfully against Biden.

Downplaying her connection to the Biden Administration. Really? Isn't her connection obvious? She is tied to Biden, the good and that not so good. We should see plenty of that over the next 100 days. Certainly the Trump campaign will do this and no doubt how her campaign responds will be covered.

GovTrack rating. Yeah, that's weird. Maybe there's a plausible reason for that? Has GovTrack given a reason for deleting her? I'm sure the Trumpers will highlight this, as will FOX and other media on the right.

Raising funds for violent protester legal bills. I thought I'd seen something about this on Twitter and Twitter noted that she is still affiliated with this. Either way, shouldn't people have legal representation? And be considered innocent until prove guilty. Gee, that kid who went into Wisconsin and shot and killed two people during one of the protests had legal representation that no doubt was paid for by some on the right. Anyway, I don't think that has been deleted from her record, and I bet she would state that all people should have adequate legal counsel.

Border Czar. I believe the push was to get the media to refrain from using that term, which the media placed upon her. I thought this was a weird fight because it gets down in the weeds about what she was actually asked to do (take a look at the root causes for migration from a number of Latin American countries). While the Harris campaign was successful it getting the "border czar" term lifted, it seems to me this has been covered extensively, in large part because the Harris campaign made it a priority.

I'm sure these issues will continue to be raised through November. Frankly, it's the Trump campaign's job to focus on her negatives. Up until now it seems the strategy has been to call her names like 'garbage," question her intellect, and other her by noting she hasn't had children.