2024 Presidential Election Thread

[falafel]

Isn't it a coincidence that 50 millions dollars is exactly twice of what Biden earned at his fundraiser?

I think Biden got $35M. But it is a nice round number, $50M.

[Non Sequitur]

I think Biden got $35M. But it is a nice round number, $50M.

I didn't know that. $35M is impressive. How many ex-presidents came to Trump's fundraiser?

[falafel]

I didn't know that. $35M is impressive. How many ex-presidents came to Trump's fundraiser?

All of them. Reagan, Lincoln. All the best presidents. JFK. They are crossing spiritual and political lines to support him.

[Bo Diddley]

All of them. Reagan, Lincoln. All the best presidents. JFK. They are crossing spiritual and political lines to support him.

[All-American]

All of them. Reagan, Lincoln. All the best presidents. JFK. They are crossing spiritual and political lines to support him.

And thus was born McNaughton's next smash hit painting.

[fusnik]

The abortion stuff is fascinating from a political standpoint. I wonder how the average evangelical feels when Trump says states rights should reign supreme.

If we had a functioning GOP, they could easily sweep the next 2 election cycles strictly by pushing a 15 week abortion ban. It’s such a reasonable marker, 90% winner with the poppulace and they could hammer the dems for wanting 8 month abortions until the election.

[Northwestcoug]

Here’s the thing: murder is murder. 23 versus 15 weeks is irrelevant. Wanna know why? Because pro-life GOP leaders rightfully see that for the farce it is. Once you’ve labeled it baby killing 8 weeks of development is meaningless. You’re still stopping a beating heart, even if the fetus isn’t as cute or more human than a late second trimester one. A 15 week ban only serves to make the US feel more in line with European countries, most of which view an earlier 2nd trimester law as not absolute anyways. It is still the same dirty work.

[Non Sequitur]

Here’s the thing: murder is murder. 23 versus 15 weeks is irrelevant. Wanna know why? Because pro-life GOP leaders rightfully see that for the farce it is. Once you’ve labeled it baby killing 8 weeks of development is meaningless. You’re still stopping a beating heart, even if the fetus isn’t as cute or more human than a late second trimester one. A 15 week ban only serves to make the US feel more in line with European countries, most of which view an earlier 2nd trimester law as not absolute anyways. It is still the same dirty work.

I'm unsure of the point you're trying to make. Are you saying that abortion is murder, or are you being ironic?

[Northwestcoug]

I'm unsure of the point you're trying to make. Are you saying that abortion is murder, or are you being ironic?

I’m pointing out the speciousness (think I’m using that word right) of clamoring for a 15 week ban. It’s an attempt at compromise, to make abortion more palatable. It doesn’t solve any of the moral issues pro-life people have with abortion.

[falafel]

I’m pointing out the speciousness (think I’m using that word right) of clamoring for a 15 week ban. It’s an attempt at compromise, to make abortion more palatable. It doesn’t solve any of the moral issues pro-life people have with abortion.

Right. And if the GOP pushed a 15 week ban, they’d all be voted out if office. At least the members of the House would be.

[fusnik]

Right. And if the GOP pushed a 15 week ban, they’d all be voted out if office. At least the members of the House would be.

Doubtful. It's a small percentage of folks who care about abortion. MAGA has ripped off the bandage of piety.

Lindsay Graham is out supporting a 15 week ban.

[falafel]

Doubtful. It's a small percentage of folks who care about abortion. MAGA has ripped off the bandage of piety.

Lindsay Graham is out supporting a 15 week ban.

They don’t all need to be voted out for them to think they will be voted out, on an individual basis. They aren’t thinking of the group.

also, hilarious that you are calling on the GOP to push “reasonable” abortion restrictions.

[fusnik]

They don’t all need to be voted out for them to think they will be voted out, on an individual basis. They aren’t thinking of the group.

also, hilarious that you are calling on the GOP to push “reasonable” abortion restrictions.

I'm not pushing anyone.

I'm saying if the GOP was a functioning party, they could use abortion and a 15 week compromise as a cudgel against the democrats to win multiple election cycles.

15 weeks is such a winner, dems need to be careful because if the GOP in general, obvs will always have the zero tolerance abotion folks, coalesces around 12-15 weeks, the democrats will find themselves in an unreasonable position.

Two driving forces have pushed the elections the last 3 cycles, Trump and abortion. But a big portion of the abortion folks are center left/right people that are gettable by either party.

I just think its fascinating such an easy win is so hard for both parties to take.

[Omaha 680]

I'm not pushing anyone.

I'm saying if the GOP was a functioning party, they could use abortion and a 15 week compromise as a cudgel against the democrats to win multiple election cycles.

15 weeks is such a winner, dems need to be careful because if the GOP in general, obvs will always have the zero tolerance abotion folks, coalesces around 12-15 weeks, the democrats will find themselves in an unreasonable position.

Two driving forces have pushed the elections the last 3 cycles, Trump and abortion. But a big portion of the abortion folks are center left/right people that are gettable by either party.

I just think its fascinating such an easy win is so hard for both parties to take.

This is absolutely correct. The first party to support a 15-week ban (with some reasonable carveouts) will push the other party into an untenable position.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Biden out there buying more votes with taxpayer money. This man has no shame.

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