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  • USUC
    Chronic Poseur
    • Apr 2010
    • 8783

    #2836
    Originally posted by Moliere View Post

    These polling results are not good news. It’s registered voters and includes third party candidates. I still don’t think Trump holds these large leads until November but I’m growing less optimistic. I worry about the debates when Biden is forced to respond to free form attacks and questions instead of reading off a teleprompter. Let’s hope his mental ability improves a bit by then.
    Surely Biden will not participate in a debate, right?

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    • Moliere
      One man.....one pie
      • Oct 2009
      • 27862

      #2837
      Originally posted by USUC View Post

      Surely Biden will not participate in a debate, right?
      Why wouldn’t he?
      "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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      • Maximus
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 6013

        #2838
        lets be real trump wont do them if he didnt in primary

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        • falafel
          loves to talk on things
          • Mar 2009
          • 37950

          #2839
          Originally posted by Maximus View Post
          lets be real trump wont do them if he didnt in primary
          He had no reason to there. It would only hurt him. Trump is going to demand debates from Biden. Biden will eventually have to do them because Trump will "win" if Biden declines.
          Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

          Dig your own grave, and save!

          "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

          "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

          GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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          • YOhio
            Hipster Mode
            • Nov 2008
            • 26165

            #2840
            I'll be surprised if either candidate wants a debate and have to spend time at the U.



            Absolutely nothing will be gained from watching two geriatrics scream at each other for an hour, but I hope they debate if only to preserve the norm.

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            • Commando
              Explosivo
              • Feb 2009
              • 20748

              #2841
              There is nothing to be gained from debating a liar and election denier. It's just a national audience for him to flood the zone with bullshit like he always does.
              "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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              • fusnik
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2008
                • 4475

                #2842
                Originally posted by Moliere View Post

                Why wouldn’t he?
                Well let’s count the ways:

                Trump tried to murder Biden with Covid last time they tried to debate

                Trump attempted a coup

                Trump has weaponized an entire party against Bidens kid (remember the Trump kids were off limits, lol)

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                • Commando
                  Explosivo
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 20748

                  #2843
                  Originally posted by fusnik View Post

                  Well let’s count the ways:

                  Trump tried to murder Biden with Covid last time they tried to debate

                  Trump attempted a coup

                  Trump has weaponized an entire party against Bidens kid (remember the Trump kids were off limits, lol)
                  lol yes the 'children,' as the attorney referred to them. Yeah the children who were actively part of his businesses and administration? Got it.
                  "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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                  • Moliere
                    One man.....one pie
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 27862

                    #2844
                    Originally posted by Maximus View Post
                    lets be real trump wont do them if he didnt in primary
                    Yes he will. It’s a perfect time for him to continue to push the narrative that Biden is cognitively in decline. One mistake from Biden and it could be a disaster. It’s a lot of upside for Trump and very little downside.
                    "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                    • Moliere
                      One man.....one pie
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 27862

                      #2845
                      Originally posted by fusnik View Post

                      Well let’s count the ways:

                      Trump tried to murder Biden with Covid last time they tried to debate

                      Trump attempted a coup

                      Trump has weaponized an entire party against Bidens kid (remember the Trump kids were off limits, lol)
                      I won’t vote for Biden if he doesn’t do the debates. If his ideas aren’t good enough to beat Trump and if he’s that afraid of debating Trump then the guy has no business being president.

                      If he skips the debates, I’ll just not vote for anyone for president…or maybe write in Mitt.
                      "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                      • Pelado
                        Bald not naked
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 21136

                        #2846
                        Originally posted by Moliere View Post

                        I won’t vote for Biden if he doesn’t do the debates. If his ideas aren’t good enough to beat Trump and if he’s that afraid of debating Trump then the guy has no business being president.

                        If he skips the debates, I’ll just not vote for anyone for president…or maybe write in Mitt.
                        Summon myboynoah!
                        "I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
                        - Goatnapper'96

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                        • USUC
                          Chronic Poseur
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 8783

                          #2847
                          Originally posted by Moliere View Post

                          Why wouldn’t he?
                          Biden's team is actively involved in a bubble wrap strategy. This means not only physically (Jill by his side holding on to him, etc) but also limiting his speaking engagements. The polls are shifting towards Biden. If this continues there is no way I'm putting him at risk debating Trump. The ground work has been laid for the BS justifications they will use (as Fus has already detailed).

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                          • Jeff Lebowski
                            Corporate lackey for Jesus
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 69648

                            #2848
                            Originally posted by USUC View Post

                            Biden's team is actively involved in a bubble wrap strategy. This means not only physically (Jill by his side holding on to him, etc) but also limiting his speaking engagements. The polls are shifting towards Biden. If this continues there is no way I'm putting him at risk debating Trump. The ground work has been laid for the BS justifications they will use (as Fus has already detailed).
                            Trump tried to murder him. Lol.
                            "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                            "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                            "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                            • Jeff Lebowski
                              Corporate lackey for Jesus
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 69648

                              #2849
                              Trump is such a complete lunatic and threat to democracy that Biden would be crazy not to debate him. Dementia notwithstanding.
                              "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                              "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                              "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                              • fusnik
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 4475

                                #2850
                                Originally posted by Moliere View Post

                                I won’t vote for Biden if he doesn’t do the debates. If his ideas aren’t good enough to beat Trump and if he’s that afraid of debating Trump then the guy has no business being president.

                                If he skips the debates, I’ll just not vote for anyone for president…or maybe write in Mitt.
                                lol.

                                And you guys keep saying you won’t vote for Trump. Biden not doing a debate will push you to a no vote for POTUS? Really?

                                What can we learn from a debate with Trump and Biden that we already don’t know?

                                It’ll be 2 hours of Trump bloviating, a couple moments of Biden stumbling on his words, followed by hours of criticisms of the media for their lack of control and at the end we will all be stupider for entertaining such a spectacle.

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