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They'll just find a new group to hate.Originally posted by beefytee View Post"The mind is not a boomerang. If you throw it too far it will not come back." ~ Tom McGuaneComment
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Grievance and emotion has always been a part of each party, it just varies on how much of it reaches a critical mass. We've had a great run in this country of very little populism or grievance focus since the end of Jim Crow until Trump. It's been there on both sides, but not ascendant. No longer.Originally posted by Non Sequitur View Post
I talk with a few people who are conservative and can't wait until Trump is no longer a factor so the GOP can return to what they were. I dont think it will return to what it was. Im not even sure that the GOP will be around in 15 years, gone the way of the Whig Party. But the DNC is not going to be what it was either. Biden is the president, but it's not his party. Society has changed and the philosophical clashes between and within parties are in full force. The grievance and anger in the GOP lies heavy with the boomers right now while the grievance and anger in the DNC lies primarily with the youth. I don't think the grievance politics will be going away anytime soon.Comment
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My litmus is Trump support. Right now the members of the party and the apparatus are all in on Trump based on money spend, endorsements and direction.Originally posted by falafel View Post
If you can find a candidate that hasn’t endorsed Trump or has expressed even tacit reticence in the momentum of the party, I’m all in.
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100% agree. My antipathy for Trump is about 10% about policy and 90% about threat to democracy. If you're conservative I might not agree with you, but I'm willing to work with you in shaping policy, but if you endorse Trump, you're my enemy.Originally posted by fusnik View Post"The mind is not a boomerang. If you throw it too far it will not come back." ~ Tom McGuaneComment
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Is this a hypothetical? How much policy shaping are you actually doing?Originally posted by Non Sequitur View Post
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Lol.Originally posted by YOhio View Post"There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
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Trump bemoans lack of immigrants from majority-white countries to the US | Donald Trump | The Guardian
This is such a perfect example of why the media sucks and isnt the left wing bogeyman so many think it is:
6 years ago he does the shithole countries rant. Inside the meeting he gets pushback that if you remove Haitians from immigration lists, everyone will know why you removed that group of people.
Story breaks. White House denies he said that, he tweets he didnt call them shithole coutnries. The GOP attacks the media because of unnamed sources. GOP protects Trump and everyone retreats to their corners, half the country says hes a racist, the other half says he didn't mean it racially, just that those countries suck if he did call them shithole.
This weekend he goes full white nationalist to a group of some of the richest people in the country, he gets a good laugh, admits the shithole country story is true, and the media ignores his racism and instead prints that he allegedly raised 50mm.
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So the media is a right-wing bogeyman? I am not sure I follow your logic here.Originally posted by fusnik View Post"There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
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lol there is absolutely no way he raised that sum. Somebody did the math based on guests and expected/suggested donations for their level of accommodation at the event, and it might have shaken out closer to between 15-20m maximum. Kind of a lot of effort to go to just to pay Trump's legal bills for a few months...Originally posted by fusnik View Post"I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"Comment
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Lol at ignoring that whole thing.Comment
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OK. I was curious why "the media sucks" in this case, given both incidents were all over my news feeds.Originally posted by fusnik View Post"There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
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It's the first I'm hearing it. I did hear about the 50 million dollar fundraiser though.Comment
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Isn't it a coincidence that 50 millions dollars is exactly twice of what Biden earned at his fundraiser?Originally posted by beefytee View Post"The mind is not a boomerang. If you throw it too far it will not come back." ~ Tom McGuaneComment
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