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  • Roberto Clemente? Dude was a hero and awesome baseball player who died helping other people. But I guess he isn't a white nationalist and he grew up speaking Spanish, so time to cancel him.

    desantis is a POS.
    Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

    For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

    Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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    • This is why I think, at this point, this ass-clown is more dangerous than Trump. Old Gregg is right that all this will bring is a hard reaction from the left that is probably overreaching, but necessary to combat this absolutely stupid law that helps no one. But, as always, conservative assholes can't help themselves when it comes to living everyone else's life for them. The thing that pains me is that I'm sure there was a time in my life that I would have applauded this. Now, I just can't stomach any Republican. Such a crappy party, with crappy leaders who count on the votes of people that are either ignorant, or just plain mean.

      Prove me wrong.

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      • Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
        Roberto Clemente? Dude was a hero and awesome baseball player who died helping other people. But I guess he isn't a white nationalist and he grew up speaking Spanish, so time to cancel him.

        desantis is a POS.
        It’s the perfect book for someone to pull from the shelves and blame it on Desantis when I’m fact it’s wouldn’t be banned under the law. Perfect because it drives home an invalid point that someone wants to make.
        "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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        • Originally posted by Moliere View Post

          It’s the perfect book for someone to pull from the shelves and blame it on Desantis when I’m fact it’s wouldn’t be banned under the law. Perfect because it drives home an invalid point that someone wants to make.
          his law he rushed with no thought to its actual language is the fault. the state congress does his bidding. he draws the maps. guides the laws.

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          • Originally posted by Moliere View Post

            It’s the perfect book for someone to pull from the shelves and blame it on Desantis when I’m fact it’s wouldn’t be banned under the law. Perfect because it drives home an invalid point that someone wants to make.
            it's not an invalid point, it's a perfect example of why ideological legislation enforceable against teachers and educators fails. it's a book that is in part related to the oppression faced by someone because of their race. making that book or any book that does that available is a facial violation of the law. that it's an absurd result is evidence of the absurdity that this is a law, not that someone would act rationally to try to protect themselves from enforcement. it's also a perfect example of exactly why this is worse for students. i don't understand how anybody can countenance the embrace of censorship. it is bad for everybody that's not ron desantis and the boomer culture warrior votes he's buying. disgusting.
            Te Occidere Possunt Sed Te Edere Non Possunt Nefas Est.

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            • DeSantis is a horrible candidate. But can we stop this nonsense about how he would be worse than Trump?
              "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
              "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
              "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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              • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                DeSantis is a horrible candidate. But can we stop this nonsense about how he would be worse than Trump?
                Both would be terrible. It's like arguing if stroke or heart attack is worse. No sane person would volunteer to have either.
                Last edited by BlueK; 02-14-2023, 06:39 PM.

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                • Originally posted by Moliere View Post

                  It’s the perfect book for someone to pull from the shelves and blame it on Desantis when I’m fact it’s wouldn’t be banned under the law. Perfect because it drives home an invalid point that someone wants to make.
                  Within a few weeks of the law being passed, the state of Florida banned a bunch of textbooks from being used anymore in Florida schools. Some were as inane as math textbooks. Math textbooks? The state said those books did not comply with the law. Whatever.

                  This is the environment the state created through its own actions where educators are scared of getting in trouble.
                  Last edited by BlueK; 02-14-2023, 06:48 PM.

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                  • Originally posted by BlueK View Post

                    Both would be terrible. It's like arguing if stroke or heart attack is worse. No sane person would volunteer to have either.
                    The main argument people have been making is that he’s like Trump but smarter. The logic of that fails me. Trump is a dumb yet supremely determined sociopath. It doesn’t get worse or more dangerous than that.
                    "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                    "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                    "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                    • meh ..both unfit. one is worse in some areas, one in others.

                      unfit for president IMO.

                      Haley, scott, Id vote for maybe.
                      Last edited by Maximus; 02-15-2023, 06:05 AM.

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                      • The Christians for Israel group is weird, but the general feeling of them seems to be harmless. Until you know what this Hagee character has said previously:



                        "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
                        "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
                        - SeattleUte

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                        • DeSantis is horrible. Anybody who is willing to do the things he is doing in order to feed fresh meat to the MAGA alligators is dangerous. He's not Trump so I don't compare them, but Trump sure paved the way for him to do that.
                          "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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                          • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

                            The main argument people have been making is that he’s like Trump but smarter. The logic of that fails me. Trump is a dumb yet supremely determined sociopath. It doesn’t get worse or more dangerous than that.
                            Trump is lazy and disorganized and lacks discipline and didn’t know how Washington works.

                            DeSantis is smart, cunning, motivated and knows how Washington works.

                            And now he has executive experience in a state he only won because he referred to a black dude as a monkey and made a video of his kid building a wall.

                            Look at what he’s done with the Florida Board of Medicine and imagine him doing that at scale.

                            Also, how much daylight is there between Trumps seditious acts and DeSantis? Dude is an election denier and has never denounced Trumps actions which should be immediately disqualifying.

                            Folks like you only say he isn’t ‘that bad’ so you feel good about yourself when you vote for him.

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                            • Originally posted by fusnik View Post

                              Trump is lazy and disorganized and lacks discipline and didn’t know how Washington works.

                              DeSantis is smart, cunning, motivated and knows how Washington works.

                              And now he has executive experience in a state he only won because he referred to a black dude as a monkey and made a video of his kid building a wall.

                              Look at what he’s done with the Florida Board of Medicine and imagine him doing that at scale.

                              Also, how much daylight is there between Trumps seditious acts and DeSantis? Dude is an election denier and has never denounced Trumps actions which should be immediately disqualifying.

                              Folks like you only say he isn’t ‘that bad’ so you feel good about yourself when you vote for him.
                              Lol. I knew this was coming.

                              You either think DeSantis is as bad as Trump or you are a secret fan. Gotcha.
                              "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                              "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                              "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                              • https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cogj9...d=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

                                this woman does a really good Kamala
                                Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

                                Dig your own grave, and save!

                                "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

                                "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

                                GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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