2024 Presidential Election Thread

[Maximus]

Welcome to the world of having your political priorities rejected by the voting public. It gets lonely sometimes.

I mean that's kinda ignoring the issues right?

Trump is going to deport 20 million. Some citizens will be caught up in it but that's the price to pay

Trump should be in jail and he knows it

[USUC]

You preferred this outcome to the democrats prevailing right? I know you voted 3rd party but I seemed to remember you indicating this was something you'd prefer

No. My preference would have been a Harris Whitehouse and a GOP congress. I'm scared of Trump's tarrifs. I'm scared of RFK Jr being anywhere close to decision makers. I'm scared of the precedent that giving Trump a pass for Jan 6 sets.

[PaloAltoCougar]

All they need to know is how to do is fire people and shut down stupid federal government agencies...

Following that meme, it also means being impressed by and retaining a funny but utterly worthless employee for a business that's about to be burned to the ground.

[BlueK]

I mean that's kinda ignoring the issues right?

Trump is going to deport 20 million. Some citizens will be caught up in it but that's the price to pay

Trump should be in jail and he knows it

I miss NS. He would have some interesting things to say today along these lines.

[BlueK]

No. My preference would have been a Harris Whitehouse and a GOP congress. I'm scared of Trump's tarrifs. I'm scared of RFK Jr being anywhere close to decision makers. I'm scared of the precedent that giving Trump a pass for Jan 6 sets.

Right. I really don't think he's bluffing on the tariffs thing. Hold onto your hats. People voted on the inflation issue but unfortunately the "solution" of Trump is going to give them the exact opposite of what they most cared about. As my wife likes to say, "you get what you pay for." Fewer/weaker guardrails to slow the craziness and keep back his worst impulses.. America have fun with that.

I will say an unchecked Trump will probably be his own undoing because he's completely crazy. Let's hope he doesn't take the planet down with him

[frank ryan]

Welcome to the world of having your political priorities rejected by the voting public. It gets lonely sometimes.

Weird scold. I'm pretty sure you previously stated you preferred Trump and GOP senate in the least.

My political prioritizes can be summed up by not wanting to have a sociopath in the White House

[Uncle Ted]

Following that meme, it also means being impressed by and retaining a funny but utterly worthless employee for a business that's about to be burned to the ground.

Whatever it takes to reduce all the stupid wasteful government spending and reduce the size of the government so it doesn't happen again in the future.

How many of those 500,000 public charging stations did the EPA build? Maybe we would be better off if the EPA was burned to the ground.

How many people has the FCC connected with the $42 billion in funding they were given for rural internet? A program that Harris, herself, was supposedly heading up. Maybe we would be better off if the FCC was burned to the ground.

The Harris-Biden administration is the source of a lot of this government waste. Especially Biden given how long he has been involved with the federal government. Step 1 of firing them can soon be checked off.

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[Uncle Ted]

LOL... The Dems calling Brown/Black people racist and sexist:

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Looking for the reason they lost in all the wrong places.

[Maximus]

Right. I really don't think he's bluffing on the tariffs thing. Hold onto your hats. People voted on the inflation issue but unfortunately the "solution" of Trump is going to give them the exact opposite of what they most cared about. As my wife likes to say, "you get what you pay for." Fewer/weaker guardrails to slow the craziness and keep back his worst impulses.. America have fun with that.

I will say an unchecked Trump will probably be his own undoing because he's completely crazy. Let's hope he doesn't take the planet down with him

i wonder if he'll play along with bibi or force him to end stuff

[Jeff Lebowski]

If they attribute the loss to racism, stupidity, etc. they will get their butts kicked again in 4 years.

[Uncle Ted]

If they attribute the loss to racism, stupidity, etc. they will get their butts kicked again in 4 years.

Just like when Harris called 18-24 years "stupid" (multiple times)... Apparently Trump won among 18-29 year olds.

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Go figure.

[myboynoah]

If they attribute the loss to racism, stupidity, etc. they will get their butts kicked again in 4 years.

Yep. Certainly some of those issues played roles (not an insignificant part of MAGA is clearly racist and misogynist), but Harris wasn't going to get those voters anyway. It saddens me that it exists and is now even more emboldened, but it is what it is I guess.

So what was it? Inflation? Illegal immigration? Biden actually did some very good things, but they weren't sexy and the benefits will not be seen for a few more years. How does one run on that? I guess people had nostalgia for the first Trump presidency? I saw it as chaotic, so I don't understand that. I guess we can put the the strength of the Pro Choice movement to bed. Just doesn't seem to be there.

My greatest fear is Trump breaking things on the international front. That just doesn't move voters.

[Uncle Ted]

Yep. Certainly some of those issues played roles (not an insignificant part of MAGA is clearly racist and misogynist), but Harris wasn't going to get those voters anyway. It saddens me that it exists and is now even more emboldened, but it is what it is I guess.

So what was it? Inflation? Illegal immigration? Biden actually did some very good things, but they weren't sexy and the benefits will not be seen for a few more years. How does one run on that? I guess people had nostalgia for the first Trump presidency? I saw it as chaotic, so I don't understand that. I guess we can put the the strength of the Pro Choice movement to bed. Just doesn't seem to be there.

My greatest fear is Trump breaking things on the international front. That just doesn't move voters.

It seems from the exit polls people were very unhappy with the way things are going... 29% were angry!

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So the economy/inflation/wages/etc, flood of illegal immigration and increased crime, or pretty much all of the Harris-Biden administration BS. Harris was running on the promise she was going to change it on "day 1" and voters were asking where the hell have been the last four years.

[Moliere]

I mean that's kinda ignoring the issues right?

Trump is going to deport 20 million. Some citizens will be caught up in it but that's the price to pay

Trump should be in jail and he knows it

You really think Trump is going to deport US citizens?

[Jeff Lebowski]

Yep. Certainly some of those issues played roles (not an insignificant part of MAGA is clearly racist and misogynist), but Harris wasn't going to get those voters anyway. It saddens me that it exists and is now even more emboldened, but it is what it is I guess.

So what was it? Inflation? Illegal immigration? Biden actually did some very good things, but they weren't sexy and the benefits will not be seen for a few more years. How does one run on that? I guess people had nostalgia for the first Trump presidency? I saw it as chaotic, so I don't understand that. I guess we can put the the strength of the Pro Choice movement to bed. Just doesn't seem to be there.

My greatest fear is Trump breaking things on the international front. That just doesn't move voters.

Polls show that the economy and immigration were the two biggest issues. Biden spent money like a drunken sailor early in his presidency and it made inflation skyrocket, making life seems miserable for the average person. Yes, stocks are higher than ever, but inflation is way more visceral for most people. And the border has been a disaster.

I think this election is also a referendum on DEI, identity politics, extreme trans/LGBTQ issues, etc. The democrats are popular in the faculty lounge, but they have lost the working class and much of the middle class.