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  • BigPiney
    Huge Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 12386

    #421
    Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
    Fifty-five years ago, LBJ announced he wasn't running for reelection two weeks after RFK announced he was running. I'm hoping history repeats itself with Biden announcing he won't be running a few weeks after RFK Jr.'s announcement yesterday. I think Junior's chances are far worse than were those of his father and that his announcement won't move the needle for Biden, But I remain hopeful that Biden will withdraw, realizing he'll be incapable of providing strong leadership by 2029, if not a lot sooner. He could go out now a winner and with a lot of love and respect from most of the country. His announcement could also be phrased in a way to seriously hurt Trump's chances (e.g., a Kennedy-esque "the torch must be passed to a new generation"). Primaries involving a variety of candidates from both parties would be a very good thing for the country.
    That is what we need more of from the left: anti-vaxxers and wild conspiracy theories. And he is 69 years old, so keeping in line with the "needs to retire", but won't that we have going from both parties.

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    • Scott R Nelson
      UofU/BYU mixed marriage
      • Apr 2010
      • 1508

      #422
      Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
      Primaries involving a variety of candidates from both parties would be a very good thing for the country.
      Isn't that how we ended up with Trump in 2016? When there were 17 candidates, so nobody was able to take a strong lead right away?

      I would just like to see either party come up with a candidate that I feel I can vote FOR, rather than all of these people I don't want to see running the country. It looks rather hopeless to me right now for either of the two major parties.

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      • Uncle Ted
        The Big 12 money shot.
        • Apr 2010
        • 28853

        #423
        Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
        Fifty-five years ago, LBJ announced he wasn't running for reelection two weeks after RFK announced he was running. I'm hoping history repeats itself with Biden announcing he won't be running a few weeks after RFK Jr.'s announcement yesterday. I think Junior's chances are far worse than were those of his father and that his announcement won't move the needle for Biden, But I remain hopeful that Biden will withdraw, realizing he'll be incapable of providing strong leadership by 2029, if not a lot sooner. He could go out now a winner and with a lot of love and respect from most of the country. His announcement could also be phrased in a way to seriously hurt Trump's chances (e.g., a Kennedy-esque "the torch must be passed to a new generation"). Primaries involving a variety of candidates from both parties would be a very good thing for the country.
        Maybe Joe will boot Harris and offer RFK Jr the VP spot instead... Harris makes Dick Chaney look good.
        "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
        "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
        "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
        GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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        • Uncle Ted
          The Big 12 money shot.
          • Apr 2010
          • 28853

          #424
          Originally posted by BigPiney View Post

          That is what we need more of from the left: anti-vaxxers and wild conspiracy theories.
          Be nice to RFK Jr... both his dad and uncle were killed by CIA assassins, man.
          "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
          "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
          "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
          GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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          • BlueK
            Senior Member
            • May 2011
            • 7203

            #425
            Originally posted by Scott R Nelson View Post
            Isn't that how we ended up with Trump in 2016? When there were 17 candidates, so nobody was able to take a strong lead right away?

            I would just like to see either party come up with a candidate that I feel I can vote FOR, rather than all of these people I don't want to see running the country. It looks rather hopeless to me right now for either of the two major parties.
            Looking back on that I specifically remember ranking Trump dead last for me in preference among all of those 17 or so candidates long before I thought he had any chance of winning.

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            • BlueK
              Senior Member
              • May 2011
              • 7203

              #426
              Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post

              Be nice to RFK Jr... both his dad and uncle were killed by CIA assassins, man.
              Ted Cruz's dad was in the CIA?

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              • frank ryan
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2008
                • 12403

                #427
                Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
                Fifty-five years ago, LBJ announced he wasn't running for reelection two weeks after RFK announced he was running. I'm hoping history repeats itself with Biden announcing he won't be running a few weeks after RFK Jr.'s announcement yesterday. I think Junior's chances are far worse than were those of his father and that his announcement won't move the needle for Biden, But I remain hopeful that Biden will withdraw, realizing he'll be incapable of providing strong leadership by 2029, if not a lot sooner. He could go out now a winner and with a lot of love and respect from most of the country. His announcement could also be phrased in a way to seriously hurt Trump's chances (e.g., a Kennedy-esque "the torch must be passed to a new generation"). Primaries involving a variety of candidates from both parties would be a very good thing for the country.
                I don't think he is a serious candidate RFK Jr. Does not have any substantial support. He is on the weird anti-vaccine jihad. He might sway some of Maryanne Williamson's voters.
                Last edited by frank ryan; 04-09-2023, 05:13 PM.

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                • Clark Addison
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 10317

                  #428
                  Originally posted by frank ryan View Post

                  I don't think he is a serious candidate RFK Jr. Does not have any substantial support. He is on the weird anti-vaccine jihad. He might sway some of Maryanne Williamson's voters.
                  I would vastly prefer Williamson to RFK Jr. (or Trump. Or DeSantis)

                  I am open to preferring Williamson to Biden.

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                  • Maximus
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 6030

                    #429
                    Desantis continues to outdo himself

                    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/10/u...migration.html

                    The bills would expose people to felony charges for sheltering, hiring and transporting undocumented immigrants; require hospitals to ask patients their immigration status and report to the state; invalidate out-of-state driver’s licenses issued to undocumented immigrants; and direct the Florida Department of Law Enforcement to provide assistance to federal authorities in enforcing the nation’s immigration laws.
                    Last edited by Maximus; 04-10-2023, 05:46 AM.

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                    • frank ryan
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 12403

                      #430
                      Originally posted by Maximus View Post
                      Desantis continues to outdo himself

                      https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/10/u...migration.html

                      The bills would expose people to felony charges for sheltering, hiring and transporting undocumented immigrants; require hospitals to ask patients their immigration status and report to the state; invalidate out-of-state driver’s licenses issued to undocumented immigrants; and direct the Florida Department of Law Enforcement to provide assistance to federal authorities in enforcing the nation’s immigration laws.
                      That's a good way to sabotage his state.

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                      • Uncle Ted
                        The Big 12 money shot.
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 28853

                        #431
                        Good news everyone... Grandpa Joe says he plans on running for re-election:

                        Biden Says He Plans On Running For Re-Election

                        President Joe Biden intends to run for re-election, but is delaying an announcement until an unidentified date, he said Monday, inching closer to confirming expectations he will seek a second term after months of speculation surrounding his plans.

                        KEY FACTS
                        • Biden told NBC’s Al Roker: “I plan on running, but we’re not prepared to announce it yet,” he said from the White House’s annual Easter egg roll.
​
                        • The comments follow similar statements last week from White House spokesperson Andrew Bates, who told CNN “Biden has been clear that he intends to run,” adding “there has never been a timeframe for any announcement.”
​
                        • First Lady Jill Biden has also indicated her husband will wage a second run for the White House, telling the Associated Press in February “he’s not done. He’s not finished what he started.”

                        [...]
                        The president made the comments Monday, marking his most definitive public comments to date on his 2024 plans.


                        So the question is only who will be his running mate.
                        "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                        "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                        "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                        GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                        • Jeff Lebowski
                          Corporate lackey for Jesus
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 69770

                          #432
                          Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
                          Good news everyone... Grandpa Joe says he plans on running for re-election:


                          The president made the comments Monday, marking his most definitive public comments to date on his 2024 plans.


                          So the question is only who will be his running mate.
                          Please, please, please, not Kamala Harris.
                          "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
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                          • falafel
                            loves to talk on things
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 38010

                            #433
                            Isn't "I'm planning on running" the same line that he or his staff has/have been using for months and months? Not sure this is news.
                            Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

                            Dig your own grave, and save!

                            "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

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                            GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                            • Uncle Ted
                              The Big 12 money shot.
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 28853

                              #434
                              Originally posted by falafel View Post
                              Isn't "I'm planning on running" the same line that he or his staff has/have been using for months and months? Not sure this is news.
                              But Joe would lie to us… if he says he is planning on running then he is planning on running. Take it to the bank.
                              "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                              "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                              "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                              GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                              • Commando
                                Explosivo
                                • Feb 2009
                                • 20748

                                #435
                                Originally posted by Maximus View Post
                                Desantis continues to outdo himself

                                https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/10/u...migration.html

                                The bills would expose people to felony charges for sheltering, hiring and transporting undocumented immigrants; require hospitals to ask patients their immigration status and report to the state; invalidate out-of-state driver’s licenses issued to undocumented immigrants; and direct the Florida Department of Law Enforcement to provide assistance to federal authorities in enforcing the nation’s immigration laws.
                                This is like a law school exam word search-- how many violations of the actual Constitution can you find?
                                "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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