2024 Presidential Election Thread

[Maximus]

It looks like the GOP'ers will have control in both houses... If they don't use this opportunity to pass, for example, an immigration bill before the midterms then they deserve to lose bigly.

As for mass deportations he just has to give incentives for illegal immigrates to deport themselves and then become citizens the proper, legal way. Hopefully they come up with a good immigration bill and pass it.

or just give them a pathway here. not hard. would help everyone.

[Uncle Ted]

I doubt he will do a lot of things he promised to do, like mass deportations and all the tariffs. That would be just too economically disruptive. He'll do some minor things and claim he did what he said he was going to do. I know others feel differently.

It looks like the GOP'ers will have control in both houses... If they don't use this opportunity to pass, for example, an immigration bill before the midterms then they deserve to lose bigly.

As for mass deportations he just has to give incentives for illegal immigrates to deport themselves and then become citizens the proper, legal way. Hopefully they come up with a good immigration bill and pass it.

[frank ryan]

This is what I see happening as well. One of my biggest concerns is what happens in Ukraine. Another would be the pardoning of January 6 rioters.

He will do those things. His election is a huge win for Putin.

[myboynoah]

This is what I see happening as well. One of my biggest concerns is what happens in Ukraine. Another would be the pardoning of January 6 rioters.

I see him keeping his promises on Ukraine and the Jan 6 criminals. That will be a sad sad day.

[Bo Diddley]

I doubt he will do a lot of things he promised to do, like mass deportations and all the tariffs. That would be just too economically disruptive. He'll do some minor things and claim he did what he said he was going to do. I know others feel differently.

This is what I see happening as well. One of my biggest concerns is what happens in Ukraine. Another would be the pardoning of January 6 rioters.

[Uncle Ted]

Crime was also down. People were suckers for those whackamole culture war issues

Fact Check: The FBI released a revised report stating that crime was actually up by 4.9%.

FBI quietly revised 2022 crime data to show violent offenses rose rather than dropped

Former President Donald Trump has been hit with numerous “fact-checks” on the campaign trail that have cited FBI statistics to maintain violent crime is falling in America.

However, the bureau quietly adjusted its figures for 2022 in recent weeks — and the new numbers show that offenses actually ticked up overall.

The apparent stealth edit to the bureau’s statistics, first reported by RealClearInvestigations, shows that the raw number of violent crime incidents — including murders, assaults and rapes — rose to 1,256,671 in 2022 from 1,197,930 in 2021, an increase of 4.9%.
[...]

https://nypost.com/2024/10/16/us-news/fbi-quietly-revised-2022-crime-data-to-show-violent-offenses-rose-rather-than-dropped/

Either the FBI is staffed by a bunch of idiots for missing this in their original report or they lied. In either case, it is time to reduce the size of the FBI.

[frank ryan]

Yeah, inflation and immigration. As UT notes, Harris had an uphill battle.

The DEI et al referendum also resonates, but like crime, are issues over which presidents have very little real administrative power.

Crime was also down. People were suckers for those whackamole culture war issues

[BlueK]

leopards gonna eat some faces

How would someone who came illegally so recently have acquired citizenship? Legal immigrants can't usually get citizenship that fast. This sounds like a tall tale to me.

Sorry I misread. It said "would have' voted.

[Maximus]

leopards gonna eat some faces

Several of the migrants I’ve been speaking with say they would have voted for Trump themselves. Most are folks who crossed the border illegally in the last 2-3 years. They don’t believe Trump will deport them, because they are here to work and are “not criminals.”

[BlueK]

You mean the financial pain they will say is caused by the immigrants and trans people?

Yeah could be. But I'm not sure everyone would buy that though. It wasn't only hard core maga people who voted for him yesterday and a lot of those folks don't vote in off year elections either.

[LVAllen]

They would but it would not be enough to overcome the financial pain. Also, for the last several non presidential elections, a decently large number of maga folks don't show up to vote if Trump isn't on the ballot.

You mean the financial pain they will say is caused by the immigrants and trans people?

[BlueK]

Unless they blame immigrants and trans people again.

They would but it would not be enough to overcome the financial pain. Also, for the last several non presidential elections, a decently large number of maga folks don't show up to vote if Trump isn't on the ballot.

[Jeff Lebowski]

I think this election is also a referendum on DEI, identity politics, extreme trans/LGBTQ issues, etc. The democrats are popular in the faculty lounge, but they have lost the working class and much of the middle class.

This guy agrees with me. He is a democrat, btw.

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[LVAllen]

It was higher prices and the economy. If Trump's tariffs and mass deportation happen, the inflation will be worse than what we've seen yet and the Republicans get slaughtered in 2026.

Unless they blame immigrants and trans people again.

[myboynoah]

He really seems to want it though

If he does, then yikes.