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  • I knew Piney was fast but Steel--that's a nice time with an uphill in there! Is that a PR?
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    • Originally posted by ERCougar View Post
      I knew Piney was fast but Steel--that's a nice time with an uphill in there! Is that a PR?
      Thanks. To be fair I got to run down that same uphill to begin the race so I probably shouldn't have mentioned the hill. That's my best time since I was in my 20's. I've dropped quite a bit of weight this year and have added lots of speed work. It's hard to explain but I guess I'm having a bit of a mid life crisis as far as fitness goes; kind of an overwhelming feeling that at 41 it's all downhill from here. I know it's not necessarily true, and I'm trying to push back.

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      • Originally posted by SteelBlue View Post
        Thanks. To be fair I got to run down that same uphill to begin the race so I probably shouldn't have mentioned the hill. That's my best time since I was in my 20's. I've dropped quite a bit of weight this year and have added lots of speed work. It's hard to explain but I guess I'm having a bit of a mid life crisis as far as fitness goes; kind of an overwhelming feeling that at 41 it's all downhill from here. I know it's not necessarily true, and I'm trying to push back.
        You have every right to complain about any hill. I complained about the hills in my race, they just happened to be from mile 1 - 3, but I got to come down that same amount of elevation. Still, I would have been faster on a flat course than on this one despite the fact that I was running around 6 min mile for a good mile and a half down the hill.

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        • Originally posted by camleish View Post
          Mild language:

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          That was awesome! I had my first post-op appointment today. I asked the doc about the Vibrams and he said that they are seeing a lot of stress fractures that can be attributed to the shoes.

          I'll have to find something else.

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          • Originally posted by Shaka View Post
            I asked the doc about the Vibrams and he said that they are seeing a lot of stress fractures that can be attributed to the shoes.

            I'll have to find something else.
            I have a feeling that in about 3-5 years we'll all be laughing about this minimalist trend. I just haven't bought into it yet though much of the theory makes sense to me.

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            • Originally posted by Shaka View Post
              That was awesome! I had my first post-op appointment today. I asked the doc about the Vibrams and he said that they are seeing a lot of stress fractures that can be attributed to the shoes.

              I'll have to find something else.
              People are going all out in them way too fast. I have some and love them, but they are not for just jumping in or (in my opinion) for everyday use. When I'm 100% healthy (which I am not now) I'll use them once or twice a week on shorter runs to work on foot muscle strength, flexibility, etc. I love them to weightlift/exercise in too because they require more balance. But I don't see myself ever, say, racing in them. I've been as far as 4 miles in them.

              I do believe in the minimalist movement to some extent when we're talking about overstriding and such. My everyday shoes are the Saucony Kinvaras.
              Awesomeness now has a name. Let me introduce myself.

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              • Originally posted by SteelBlue View Post
                I have a feeling that in about 3-5 years we'll all be laughing about this minimalist trend. I just haven't bought into it yet though much of the theory makes sense to me.
                I certainly won't be laughing about it. I'll never run in a traditional running shoe again. At this point a traditional running shoe would just be dead weight.

                I think that enough of us have so completely altered our gate and ditched our reliance on excess padding that minimalist shoes (or completely unshod running) will always have a solid loyal following.

                I run every day in mine. Anywhere from 4-14 miles.

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                • Managed to do 2 miles last night. Some calf soreness - feels like after a weights workout - but nothing too bad. I'm going to try for 3 on Saturday, and then start the slow buildup from there. Should be up to half marathon distance in time for the race.

                  The good news is that my "cruising" pace is now 7:45. That is the pace I just naturally run when I get out and don't pay attention, something I roughly equate to my half Mary pace. This happens every time I have a layoff - I get faster.

                  The cycling has helped keep my heart and lungs in good shape too.
                  Awesomeness now has a name. Let me introduce myself.

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                  • Originally posted by Slim View Post
                    I certainly won't be laughing about it. I'll never run in a traditional running shoe again. At this point a traditional running shoe would just be dead weight.

                    I think that enough of us have so completely altered our gate and ditched our reliance on excess padding that minimalist shoes (or completely unshod running) will always have a solid loyal following.

                    I run every day in mine. Anywhere from 4-14 miles.
                    I would agree with this. On the one hand, it's understandable to assume that this is a fad, as most things of this sort are. I look at it more like this:

                    x million years of wearing no shoes, followed by a few thousand years of wearing minimalist shoes, followed by ~30 years of wearing enormous marshmallow shoes, followed by going back to minimalist shoes. From this perspective, the "normal" shoes seem to be the fad. I'm already at the point where I don't enjoy my "normal" shoe runs nearly as much.

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                    • I ran a half marathon this morning. 1:28:08 10-minute PR 7th overall and 2nd in my age group. It was a good confidence builder since I've been feeling fat and lazy since Ogden.

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                      • Originally posted by Sea Chicken View Post
                        I ran a half marathon this morning. 1:28:08 10-minute PR 7th overall and 2nd in my age group. It was a good confidence builder since I've been feeling fat and lazy since Ogden.
                        Wow, that's great! You definitely have some speed over that distance. I'd be lucky to do a sub 2 hour.
                        "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                        • Originally posted by Sea Chicken View Post
                          I ran a half marathon this morning. 1:28:08 10-minute PR 7th overall and 2nd in my age group. It was a good confidence builder since I've been feeling fat and lazy since Ogden.
                          Wow. That is blazing. My wife ran one this morning and was second overall with a 1:34 (pr). People in South Jordan are slow. She won a free pair of shoes of her choice for being the first female.

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                          • Originally posted by nikuman View Post
                            People are going all out in them way too fast. I have some and love them, but they are not for just jumping in or (in my opinion) for everyday use. When I'm 100% healthy (which I am not now) I'll use them once or twice a week on shorter runs to work on foot muscle strength, flexibility, etc. I love them to weightlift/exercise in too because they require more balance. But I don't see myself ever, say, racing in them. I've been as far as 4 miles in them.

                            I do believe in the minimalist movement to some extent when we're talking about overstriding and such. My everyday shoes are the Saucony Kinvaras.
                            The last thing I would want to do is weighlift in those. I understand the idea behind them and for running, speedwork, etc I am sure they are great. But weight lifting I don't want my toes that exposed, just in case I drop something.
                            Last edited by cougjunkie; 07-15-2011, 11:26 AM.
                            *Banned*

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                            • Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
                              The last thing I would want to do is weighlight in those. I understand the idea behind them and for running, speedwork, etc I am sure they are great. But weight lifting I don't want my toes that exposed, just in case I drop something.
                              Almost all the roiders at the Gold's in Eugene wear them. I've had the same thought as you many times.
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                              -landpoke

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                              • Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
                                The last thing I would want to do is weighlight in those. I understand the idea behind them and for running, speedwork, etc I am sure they are great. But weight lifting I don't want my toes that exposed, just in case I drop something.
                                I am typically not weightlifting like that with massive amounts of free weights - I do much more high rep type of stuff - but it's a real concern. I have to say that I wouldn't squat or clean with them.
                                Awesomeness now has a name. Let me introduce myself.

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