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[Northwestcoug]

Wasn't D. Michael Quinn accused of apostasy but actually excommunicated for something else as well? It was something like "conduct unbecoming a member". Maybe that is a nice way to say he was actually excommunicated for being gay.

So maybe "conduct contrary to the laws and order of the church" is a nice way of saying that Kate Kelly was excommunicated for being gay.As Romney once said equal rights for women (ERA) is just a home for "moral perverts" such as the "lesbians and the homosexuals". It is just a matter of time before Kate Kelly comes out of the closet.

Uh oh. I thought George Romney was a patron saint for defying church leadership concerning the priesthood ban. I guess people are more complicated than their supporters make them out to be.

[Portland Ute]

New movement out there to affirmatively request a disciplinary hearing. Interesting. http://strangersinzion.org

Good lord...this shit has really jumped the shark.

[SeattleUte]

Perhaps people who "get this" are actually so stupid they think it is brilliant.

I think that if you're a progressive Mormon which means that you can't wholly accept your church leaders but you want to remain involved with the institution this is the principled thing to do.

[imanihonjin]

I think that if you're a progressive Mormon which means that you can't wholly accept your church leaders but you want to remain involved with the institution this is the principled thing to do.

Thanks for proving my point.

[TripletDaddy]

lol brilliant. Not stupid at all; people who don't get this are stupid. Makes up for this month's lackluster Brother Jake.

This is an interesting post. In the same sort of way http://strangersinzion.org is interesting.

[SeattleUte]

This is an interesting post. In the same sort of way http://strangersinzion.org is interesting.

I understand why this principled form of protest would cause you discomfort.

[imanihonjin]

I understand why this principled form of protest would cause you discomfort.

I understand why you think this is a principled form of protest.

[YOhio]

I understand why this principled form of protest would cause you discomfort.

LOL! Boom! Triple Dad got served..

[TripletDaddy]

I understand why this principled form of protest would cause you discomfort.

I feel fine.

[TripletDaddy]

LOL! Boom! Triple Dad got served..

tend your garden.

[SoonerCoug]

My younger brother, ItchyCoug (dermatologist), has given some interesting insight as a former bishop.

Itchy is by far the most orthodox in our family although I think even he would even admit that whether God exists is quite uncertain.

He was bishop of a Haitian ward, which is problematic in and of itself (white man from Utah leading a congregation largely of African descent).

In any case, he said that his stake president repeatedly instructed bishops that no disciplinary councils should ever be held for inactive members. He said that the point should be considered moot if the Mormon is not participating in Church at all. I thought this might put SeattleUte's mind at ease.

[Omaha 680]

In any case, he said that his stake president repeatedly instructed bishops that no disciplinary councils should ever be held for inactive members. He said that the point should be considered moot if the Mormon is not participating in Church at all. I thought this might put SeattleUte's mind at ease.

That's pretty common procedure.

[FMCoug]

My younger brother, ItchyCoug (dermatologist), has given some interesting insight as a former bishop.

Itchy is by far the most orthodox in our family although I think even he would even admit that whether God exists is quite uncertain.

He was bishop of a Haitian ward, which is problematic in and of itself (white man from Utah leading a congregation largely of African descent).

In any case, he said that his stake president repeatedly instructed bishops that no disciplinary councils should ever be held for inactive members. He said that the point should be considered moot if the Mormon is not participating in Church at all. I thought this might put SeattleUte's mind at ease.

That's pretty common procedure.

Hopefully that is true. I have a friend who was completely inactive and was exed for living with his girlfriend. This was 10+ years ago in Sandy.

[Topper]

Hopefully that is true. I have a friend who was completely inactive and was exed for living with his girlfriend. This was 10+ years ago in Sandy.

Well, there you have it. That Sandy.

[FMCoug]

Well, there you have it. That Sandy.

Yeah this would never happen in Texas!

Seriously though, at the time it just seemed bizarre to me. It was totally proactive on the part of the SP. Basically called him to repentance via a letter and when he didn't respond did the same thing with the disciplinary council. Like KK, he didn't show or even respond in any way. Great way to ensure somebody inactive NEVER comes back.