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  • #61
    Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View Post
    Sincerely,

    SeattleUte
    SeattleUte is Satan.
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    • #62
      Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
      I want someone to take this case to the Supreme Court and let's be done with all this shit. Let the high court rule and then we all fall in line, just like other stuff.
      Totally. Just like Roe v.Wade. I mean who even cares about abortion anymore? I can't think of the last time a politician had to deal with that issue.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
        SeattleUte is Satan.
        That explains quite a bit, except his love for ballet.
        "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill


        "I only know what I hear on the news." - Dear Leader

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        • #64
          Originally posted by YOhio View Post
          Totally. Just like Roe v.Wade. I mean who even cares about abortion anymore? I can't think of the last time a politician had to deal with that issue.
          When you run for office, what will be your stance?
          "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill


          "I only know what I hear on the news." - Dear Leader

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          • #65
            Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
            tooblue, there is no argument with which to contend. Currently, there are 5 people participating in this thread. Nobody seems to agree with you that Cardiac was advocating against democracy. You are the only one that walked away with that take.

            You may want to rethink your interpretation. Then again, I think it is more comfortable for you to NOT rethink your position. Easier to dig in your heels.
            Now, after the denigration comes the counsel ... thank you, you're right I should know better than to have an opinion, be it popular or unpopular, and point out an obvious absurdity! I wouldn't want to be told I'm in the minority -- gosh, that would really rattle my self esteem.

            We all know it's more important to be popular and liked than it is to have a real opinion. Maybe I can improve the delivery of my one liners -- you think you can help?

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            • #66
              Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
              SeattleUte is Satan.
              SU is the Clarence Odbody of Satan's minions. If he keeps at it, some day he'll earn his horns.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by YOhio View Post
                Totally. Just like Roe v.Wade. I mean who even cares about abortion anymore? I can't think of the last time a politician had to deal with that issue.
                Interestingly it never comes up any more! What a crazy democracy you live in!

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by YOhio View Post
                  Totally. Just like Roe v.Wade. I mean who even cares about abortion anymore? I can't think of the last time a politician had to deal with that issue.
                  You know what he was talking about. He was talking about decisions like Dred Scott.

                  When was the last time you heard two Presidential candidates talk about the worth of a slave or a slave's standing to sue in federal court?

                  QED.
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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                    You know what he was talking about. He was talking about decisions like Dred Scott.

                    When was the last time you heard two Presidential candidates talk about the worth of a slave or a slave's standing to sue in federal court?

                    QED.
                    When was the last time you heard a politician talk about immigration or a fence?

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by tooblue View Post
                      Cardiac ridiculed people for exercising their democratic rights. I am defending their right to vote and spend money in the face of the ridicule. What's hard to understand is your premature and judgmental attitude.
                      This is crazy, tooblue.

                      Of course I think people have the right to give money to whatever cause they want and vote however they see fit on this issue. I missed the part where I was advocating for a pro-gay totalitarian government in this country.

                      The article makes it pretty clear that if even Governor Huntsman, a Mormon with an 84% approval rating in Utah, is in favor of gay civil unions (essentially the equivalent of gay marriage) that it is clear what side is prevailing here.

                      With many members of the Church losing their jobs, losing their retirement savings, and other Church members living in poverty, does it really make sense that the Church was asking its members to give large sums of money and time to a clearly doomed political effort?
                      Last edited by CardiacCoug; 04-19-2009, 07:37 PM.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by YOhio View Post
                        Totally. Just like Roe v.Wade. I mean who even cares about abortion anymore? I can't think of the last time a politician had to deal with that issue.
                        I was thinking more about biracial marriage no longer being an issue. I think the relationship between biracial and homosexual marriage is an easier assumption than homosexual marriage and abortion. Am I wrong?
                        "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
                        The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by CardiacCoug View Post
                          This is crazy, tooblue.

                          Of course I think people have the right to give money to whatever cause they want and vote however they see fit on this issue. I missed the part where I was advocating for a pro-gay totalitarian government in this country.

                          The article makes it pretty clear that if even Governor Huntsman, a Mormon with an 84% approval rating in Utah, is in favor of gay civil unions (essentially the equivalent of gay marriage) that it is clear what side is prevailing here.

                          With many members of the Church losing their jobs, losing their retirement savings, and other Church members living in poverty, does it really make sense that the Church was asking its members to give large sums of money and time to a clearly doomed political effort.
                          It's not crazy. You did and continue to insinuate that these people are stupid as is evidence in your last paragraph. In a democracy people have a right to make good or bad decisions. You ridiculed people who spent money in support of prop 8. I stated I think your ridicule is stupid. Others here have called me a bigot, without any evidence to support the accusation. This entire thread is an absurdity.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by tooblue View Post
                            It's not crazy. You did and continue to insinuate that these people are stupid as is evidence in your last paragraph. In a democracy people have a right to make good or bad decisions. You ridiculed people who spent money in support of prop 8. I stated I think your ridicule is stupid. Others here have called me a bigot, without any evidence to support the accusation. This entire thread is an absurdity.
                            thanks, tooblue.

                            You have now disagreed with the author of the post, as well.

                            For the third time, tooblue's unique brand of logic serves as a metaphor for the dying, losing battle that is anti-gay rights legislation.
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                            • #74
                              I can't see how the churches actions were an act if biggotry. Of course I am not an intellectual elitist who feels I know more than someone who happens to disagree with me. I think there is a good argument that the church did choose to spend their funds unwisely.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by tooblue View Post
                                It's not crazy. You did and continue to insinuate that these people are stupid as is evidence in your last paragraph. In a democracy people have a right to make good or bad decisions. You ridiculed people who spent money in support of prop 8. I stated I think your ridicule is stupid. Others here have called me a bigot, without any evidence to support the accusation. This entire thread is an absurdity.
                                You're the only one saying absurd things in this thread.

                                Again, I support and defend the right of people to vote against gay marriage and give money to fight gay marriage. You're making some bizarre leap in logic here with your assertion that I am somehow against democracy.

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