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I see you are posting from Russia. How long have you known SoonerCoug?Originally posted by KavomatovlkaWhy dont you print stories of the sex scandals affecting the church today. Are you scared of honesty and truth. What did Jesus say in Mt:18:6. Look it up ."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
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We do have one poster that likes to speculate on the favorite positions of church leaders, is that enough for you?Originally posted by KavomatovlkaWhy dont you print stories of the sex scandals affecting the church today. Are you scared of honesty and truth. What did Jesus say in Mt:18:6. Look it up .Get confident, stupid
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Out of the 3000+ households in our stake only about 300 pay fast offerings."If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
"I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
"Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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Does your SP force the AP quorums to be driven around by their fathers to collect FOs? When something like that occurred in one of your old stakes, the then SP mobilized the entire AP. It wasn't good enough to have a single deacon knock at the door, he had to an AP companion which required most of the AP to participate. That was difficult, but another problem was getting enough adult drivers. We requested to do the fast offering routes after church at a more convenient time for members and drivers but that would have required a clerk and bishopric member to come back to the church to count it - and they didn't want to do that. So we had to disturb members while they were getting ready for church and with a shortage of drivers because many fathers were involved in church meetings before church while we attempted to collect fast offerings. When we explained the driver shortage problem, it was suggested that the AP could ride bikes, which was not practical. The end result was AP kids wondering why they had to do this because many members blew them off at the doorstep and said they were going to pay FO with tithing. Many just didn't answer the door. The Bishop's wife was one that often said she was going to pay FO with her tithing despite her husband instructing otherwise to all members from the pulpit. Fun times.Originally posted by Uncle Ted View PostOut of the 3000+ households in our stake only about 300 pay fast offerings.“Not the victory but the action. Not the goal but the game. In the deed the glory.”
"All things are measured against Nebraska." falafel
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I don't pay unless someone comes to my house. No one comes to my house.Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.
Dig your own grave, and save!
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GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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Why would you not pay with your tithing?Originally posted by Paperback Writer View PostDoes your SP force the AP quorums to be driven around by their fathers to collect FOs? When something like that occurred in one of your old stakes, the then SP mobilized the entire AP. It wasn't good enough to have a single deacon knock at the door, he had to an AP companion which required most of the AP to participate. That was difficult, but another problem was getting enough adult drivers. We requested to do the fast offering routes after church at a more convenient time for members and drivers but that would have required a clerk and bishopric member to come back to the church to count it - and they didn't want to do that. So we had to disturb members while they were getting ready for church and with a shortage of drivers because many fathers were involved in church meetings before church while we attempted to collect fast offerings. When we explained the driver shortage problem, it was suggested that the AP could ride bikes, which was not practical. The end result was AP kids wondering why they had to do this because many members blew them off at the doorstep and said they were going to pay FO with tithing. Many just didn't answer the door. The Bishop's wife was one that often said she was going to pay FO with her tithing despite her husband instructing otherwise to all members from the pulpit. Fun times.
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Because not enough members were paying FO with tithing. It was found that more FO were collected when AP knocked on members doors. For full disclosure, there were some members who rarely attended church meetings but would donate FO when the AP showed up to collect. One time, my son and his partner were invited inside a home. After about 5 minutes waiting, I grew concerned and turned off the car and knocked. Inside, the member was cleaning his guns which the deacons took great interest in. They lost track of time. The guy was very friendly and asked us to be sure and stop by next month. He admitted to missing a lot of church due to his passion for hunting.Originally posted by Bo Diddley View PostWhy would you not pay with your tithing?“Not the victory but the action. Not the goal but the game. In the deed the glory.”
"All things are measured against Nebraska." falafel
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Yeah, I live in the Mormon stronghold of NE Orem, so I've got to adjust my perspective. I remember living in other areas where the door to door was important.Originally posted by Paperback Writer View PostBecause not enough members were paying FO with tithing. It was found that more FO were collected when AP knocked on members doors. For full disclosure, there were some members who rarely attended church meetings but would donate FO when the AP showed up to collect. One time, my son and his partner were invited inside a home. After about 5 minutes waiting, I grew concerned and turned off the car and knocked. Inside, the member was cleaning his guns which the deacons took great interest in. They lost track of time. The guy was very friendly and asked us to be sure and stop by next month. He admitted to missing a lot of church due to his passion for hunting.
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No, at least not in our ward. Of course, we don't have that many boys in the YMs either.Originally posted by Paperback Writer View PostDoes your SP force the AP quorums to be driven around by their fathers to collect FOs? When something like that occurred in one of your old stakes, the then SP mobilized the entire AP. It wasn't good enough to have a single deacon knock at the door, he had to an AP companion which required most of the AP to participate. That was difficult, but another problem was getting enough adult drivers. We requested to do the fast offering routes after church at a more convenient time for members and drivers but that would have required a clerk and bishopric member to come back to the church to count it - and they didn't want to do that. So we had to disturb members while they were getting ready for church and with a shortage of drivers because many fathers were involved in church meetings before church while we attempted to collect fast offerings. When we explained the driver shortage problem, it was suggested that the AP could ride bikes, which was not practical. The end result was AP kids wondering why they had to do this because many members blew them off at the doorstep and said they were going to pay FO with tithing. Many just didn't answer the door. The Bishop's wife was one that often said she was going to pay FO with her tithing despite her husband instructing otherwise to all members from the pulpit. Fun times."If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
"I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
"Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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I just use auto bill pay for mine.Originally posted by Bo Diddley View PostWhy would you not pay with your tithing?"If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
"I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
"Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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