I learned in church today

[Jacob]

I learned that the bishop is willing to call a man as a YM advisor, even after the potential advisor informs the bishop that he lacks belief in the church's claims, is unorthodox and doesn't feel comfortable teaching the YM church doctrine (even something as "simple" as the godhead), doesn't believe in modern revelation and doesn't pray or study scriptures. Even after the bishop is made aware of all this.

[Dwight Schr-ute]

I learned that the bishop is willing to call a man as a YM advisor, even after the potential advisor informs the bishop that he lacks belief in the church's claims, is unorthodox and doesn't feel comfortable teaching the YM church doctrine (even something as "simple" as the godhead), doesn't believe in modern revelation and doesn't pray or study scriptures. Even after the bishop is made aware of all this.

Sounds like the beginnings of a moving conference talk several years from now.

[FMCoug]

My wife and I are the YSA reps for our ward. A regional meeting was scheduled for yesterday at 5:30PM. We didn't go so I can't say but I have to imagine it was very poorly attended. Some people just don't think.

[falafel]

I learned that the bishop is willing to call a man as a YM advisor, even after the potential advisor informs the bishop that he lacks belief in the church's claims, is unorthodox and doesn't feel comfortable teaching the YM church doctrine (even something as "simple" as the godhead), doesn't believe in modern revelation and doesn't pray or study scriptures. Even after the bishop is made aware of all this.

Congrats on your new calling.

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[TripletDaddy]

Congrats on your new calling.

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get rid of that stupid tapatalk signature.

[falafel]

get rid of that stupid tapatalk signature.

Its important that people know when I'm posting from the bathroom.

[Jacob]

Congrats on your new calling.

i didn't say the calling was accepted.

[Jeff Lebowski]

get rid of that stupid tapatalk signature.

Thank you. I hate those.

Everyone, please turn off your tapatalk signatures. Nobody cares that you use tapatalk and nobody cares what kind of phone you own.

[Uncle Ted]

Thank you. I hate those.

Everyone, please turn off your tapatalk signatures. Nobody cares that you use tapatalk and nobody cares what kind of phone you own.

Unless it is one of those new iPhone 5s with the fingerprint scanner and a jailbroken iOS 7.

[HuskyFreeNorthwest]

Thank you. I hate those.

Everyone, please turn off your tapatalk signatures. Nobody cares that you use tapatalk and nobody cares what kind of phone you own.

What if it is sent from a middle finger to your …

[smokymountainrain]

i didn't say the calling was accepted.

Shocker that the same guy you described above would reject a calling.

[RC Vikings]

Thank you. I hate those.

Everyone, please turn off your tapatalk signatures. Nobody cares that you use tapatalk and nobody cares what kind of phone you own.

Test

[TripletDaddy]

What if it is sent from a middle finger to your …

ha, that was a weird day. It takes a lot to send pelagiu$ into Beast Mode.

[Sons of Alvin]

I learned that the bishop is willing to call a man as a YM advisor, even after the potential advisor informs the bishop that he lacks belief in the church's claims, is unorthodox and doesn't feel comfortable teaching the YM church doctrine (even something as "simple" as the godhead), doesn't believe in modern revelation and doesn't pray or study scriptures. Even after the bishop is made aware of all this.

I would rather the bishop extend callings to people who believe those things, but don't keep the word of wisdom, but I also support extending those calls. The gospel is the only pathway to god. The church is a society that is supposed to aid in following that path. Too often we see the church as some sort of calvinist proof of our righteousness when really, people like that potential YM advisor, are the best people to hold callings in the church.

[Moliere]

I didn't learn this in church and I won't learn this in church as I don't attend HPG, but I did learn this on FB:

In 1899 the LDS Chruch was almost bankrupt. The 1899 General Conference was "the tithing conference" and where Lorenzo gave pivotal instruction about tithing - which defined the church in relation to tithing going forward.

Lorenzo Snow said in the 1899 Conference Address:

"...I plead with you in the name of the Lord, and I pray that every man, woman and child who has means shall pay one tenth of their income as a tithing..."

Conference Report Oct 1899 page 28 (3/5th way down column 2 on page 28) http://archive.org/stream/conference...ge/28/mode/2up

However, in the 2011 Lesson Manual, in Lesson 12- Tithing, the Church quote this talk as:

"....I plead with you in the name of the Lord, and I pray that every man, woman and child ... shall pay one tenth of their income as a tithing...."

Teachings of Lorenzo Snow manual, page 160
https://www.lds.org/manual/teachings...ement?lang=eng

Correlation at its finest!