I learned in church today

[Northwestcoug]

Weird people are rarely demanded to come into normal people's homes to help normal people find out stuff about dead people.

Hilarious, but profound when I think about it.

[The Fourth Nephite]

One of our ward missionaries who has developed a relationship with my neighbors over the past year, invited them to take the discussions. They declined because:

1- They don't like the way Mormons treat women. Specifically, not holding the priesthood or leadership positions, and

2- They think sending 18 and19 year olds on missions is child abuse.

[BigFatMeanie]

One of our ward missionaries who has developed a relationship with my neighbors over the past year, invited them to take the discussions. They declined because:

1- They don't like the way Mormons treat women. Specifically, not holding the priesthood or leadership positions, and

2- They think sending 18 and19 year olds on missions is child abuse.

Child abuse? That's a big leap. How do they feel about sending 18 and 19 year olds off to college? Or off to join the military? Or off to join the Peace Corps and be sent to some 3rd world hellhole?

I can't really hold the women comments against them but the child abuse line just makes your neighbors sound like helicopter-parent pansies.

[Uncle Ted]

The Krakatoa eruptions of 1883 actually took place in the years leading up to the first vision. Indeed, the harvesting difficulties experienced on the Smith farm were due to the weather effects of this cataclysmic event, resulting in July snowfalls in upstate New York. From the mouth of the bishop.

Yes, I heard the same thing but from a member in SS. His source was a BYU-I geology professor.

I made the comment that after Mt. St. Helens erupted when I was a teenage we had some of the best crops that we had seen many years. My father thought it was maybe because of the volcano ash.

[All-American]

Yes, I heard the same thing but from a member in SS. His source was a BYU-I geology professor.

I made the comment that after Mt. St. Helens erupted when I was a teenage we had some of the best crops that we had seen many years. My father thought it was maybe because of the volcano ash.

To be fair, it is significantly possible that a BYU-I geology professor has in fact said such a thing.

[The Fourth Nephite]

Child abuse? That's a big leap. How do they feel about sending 18 and 19 year olds off to college? Or off to join the military? Or off to join the Peace Corps and be sent to some 3rd world hellhole?

I can't really hold the women comments against them but the child abuse line just makes your neighbors sound like helicopter-parent pansies.

I found it funny because the husband served in the marines when he was 18. You'd think a former marine would consider a mission to be a pleasant stroll through a park. It may have been more the wife. They married later in life after failed marriages and he never had kids and she had one or maybe two. The adult child of hers I met was a nutjob, conspiracy theorist.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Just send along that talk when President Hinckley said what our general priorities should be with a note saying that President Hinckley disagrees.

Link?

[Donuthole]

Link?

Rejoicing in the Privilege to Serve

[The Fourth Nephite]

Yes, I heard the same thing but from a member in SS. His source was a BYU-I geology professor.

I made the comment that after Mt. St. Helens erupted when I was a teenage we had some of the best crops that we had seen many years. My father thought it was maybe because of the volcano ash.

Tambora was 4 times bigger of an eruption than Krakatoa. I'm not sure why Krakatoa gets all the press. Possible because it happened several decades after Tambora and so there were more european witnesses to it? Or possible it's Stan Lee's fault (re X-men).

BTW, Mt. St. Helens was a mere hiccup as far as volcanoes can go.

http://volcanoes.usgs.gov/images/pgl...uptionsize.php

http://www.nzgeothermal.org.nz/education/geology.html

[Uncle Ted]

Tambora was 4 times bigger of an eruption than Krakatoa. I'm not sure why Krakatoa gets all the press. Possible because it happened several decades after Tambora and so there were more european witnesses to it? Or possible it's Stan Lee's fault (re X-men).

BTW, Mt. St. Helens was a mere hiccup as far as volcanoes can go.

http://volcanoes.usgs.gov/images/pgl...uptionsize.php

http://www.nzgeothermal.org.nz/education/geology.html

That "hiccup" seemed to do wonders for our crops. I recall my father having four cuts of hay for years after that eruption. We normally only had three per year.

[Goatnapper'96]

Our SP is on a similar kick, so I wonder if its something from the Area Folks. We had a 2/3 ward split six months ago, and we had 2x more people in the sacrament mtg announcing the change than we had in stake conference. Our SP was irate. I thought it funny.

The fact is, stake conference usually sucks. If they want better attendance, they have to offer a better, more brief product.

We get some canned speech about "The Doctrine of Conference" every sunday before Stake Conference. They have been doing it for a few years. It has had no influence on neither my seating arrangements during the sacrament it is announced, I usually stay seated except one year I think one of my twins pissed on me when they were making the announcement and pissed bad enough to make a puddle beneath my chair, nor my attendance percentages of Stake Conference, which I usually attend.

I find it not a great deal different than many of the other things we can ignore at Church should be so inclined.

[Portland Ute]

Sounds to me like you might benefit from an entire month of stake conferences.

Get thee hence!

Sounds like nik's got it right. He does church the way he wants. He takes what he likes without throwing away the baby with the bathwater.

Occasionally, someone says something that irritates him, but he quickly moves past it.

It would be awfully silly to discard any relationship we have with other people or organizations over irritating things people say IF we are still getting something out of those relationships, would't it?

[Pheidippides]

Get thee hence!

Sounds like nik's got it right. He does church the way he wants. He takes what he likes without throwing away the baby with the bathwater.

Occasionally, someone says something that irritates him, but he quickly moves past it.

It would be awfully silly to discard any relationship we have with other people or organizations over irritating things people say IF we are still getting something out of those relationships, would't it?

I am very lucky here in that my wife is on the same page I am w/r/t church things. Oh, we don't agree on everything, but pretty close. It's like two people arguing over rye or pumpernickel; we're still getting a sandwich. So I got angry for 20 minutes, got over it, and then my wife and I laughed for the entire afternoon about it.

[Green Lantern]

Tambora was 4 times bigger of an eruption than Krakatoa. I'm not sure why Krakatoa gets all the press. Possible because it happened several decades after Tambora and so there were more european witnesses to it? Or possible it's Stan Lee's fault (re X-men).

BTW, Mt. St. Helens was a mere hiccup as far as volcanoes can go.

I like to think that we can think Stan Lee for that.

[UtahDan]

Get thee hence!

Sounds like nik's got it right. He does church the way he wants. He takes what he likes without throwing away the baby with the bathwater.

Occasionally, someone says something that irritates him, but he quickly moves past it.

It would be awfully silly to discard any relationship we have with other people or organizations over irritating things people say IF we are still getting something out of those relationships, would't it?

I think if a relationship is upsetting you enough it might be a good idea to step back just a little to try to gain some perspective on why. Church shouldn't be something that makes you want to give the speaker the bird on the way out. I'm not saying I know what the issue is, just that a deep breath never hurts.