I learned in church today

[Green Monstah]

Yea I was, what else is there?

I was referring to non sequitur's initial 7 minute reference.

[Rickomatic]

There is no "Church". The Church was disestablished by the Edmunds Tucker Act in 1887. Edmunds–Tucker Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

From that time until 1923 property was held in the personal name of the President of the Church. This led to squabbles with family members after the deaths of Woodruff and Snow and JFSmith as to which property belonged to the Church and which belonged to the family (particularly after JFSmith's death).

So in 1923 Grant set up a Corporation Sole. Corporation sole - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This legal structure ensures that a designated person automatically becomes the next shareholder upon the death of the previous shareholder. The way the articles of the Corporation of the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints are written, the President of the Quorum of the 12 automatically becomes the shareholder of the corporation sole upon the death of the previous Prophet/Shareholder.

I note that the Corporation of the Presiding Bishop of the CofJCofLDS was set up by Bishop Nibley in 1916, just prior to JFSmith's death and became the model for the Corp of the President. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Chu...legal_entities

So the short answer since HJG is that the Pres of the 12 is the next Pres of the Church because the corporate docs dictate that it must be this way. I suppose there would be some legal way around it if the Pres of the 12 agreed and cooperated, but this would be extraordinary.



You know that Pres. Monson's mental health is seriously in decline, right?

This act was repealed in 1978

[doctorcoug]

I agree... for me its also an aspect of not really paying attention then they say something crazy and as you are leaving it starts to hit you and you were like "wait what?...that is freaking crazy"

An example for me is in January my SP in our priesthood meeting (ward conference) was talking about temple recommends and said something to the effect of when he defines chastity that includes masturbation. When I was sitting there I was thinking he was talking about the youth or something but as we were leaving it hit me. The inner mononlogue came through and it said "The SP is asking everyone if they masturbate or they can't get a temple recommend." I wish I had the time back so I could speak up but it was too late.

Don't ask how it came up, but my MP said he'd have to send home over half the mission if masturbation wasn't allowed.

[DU Ute]

Don't ask how it came up, but my MP said he'd have to send home over half the mission if masturbation wasn't allowed.

He'd be stuck with a bunch of liars.

[Pelado]

Don't ask how it came up, but my MP said he'd have to send home over half the mission if masturbation wasn't allowed.

I distinctly remember a talk from the mission president's wife explaining that nocturnal emissions are not a sin.

[smokymountainrain]

So, I watched the Jazz game in my hotel room last night and they won by 21 points. Does that mean I was blessed for watching TV alone in my hotel room?

Stinkin' Bishop.

[Danimal]

So, I watched the Jazz game in my hotel room last night and they won by 21 points. Does that mean I was blessed for watching TV alone in my hotel room?

Stinkin' Bishop.

Was this before or after your porn/masturbation bonanza?

[smokymountainrain]

Was this before or after your porn/masturbation bonanza?

During, of couse. Alec Burks played 31 minutes last night, for crying out loud.

[Green Monstah]

Don't ask how it came up, but my MP said he'd have to send home over half the mission if masturbation wasn't allowed.

I can top that. My MP said, "Thanks for talking with me about this, Elder. I'm sure you'll feel much better. I don't know about you, but I always feel horrible right afterward."

[wuapinmon]

I can top that. My MP said, "Thanks for talking with me about this, Elder. I'm sure you'll feel much better. I don't know about you, but I always feel horrible right afterward."

He was doing it wrong.

[Green Monstah]

He was doing it wrong.

[Brian]

Three speakers today:
1. Admitted she totally forgot it was easter until last night. Gave a talk about teaching.
2. Assigned bishopric topic was chastity (WTF???) , but was told she could pick her own topic if she wanted. Spoke on how great things were back in the 50s, when the bad girls had pierced ears, and the bad boys smoked, so it was easy to tell who to avoid. A family sitting w/ the missionaries, who smelled of smoke felt super welcome, I'm sure.
3. Holy Ghost. Scripture after scripture on the holy ghost.

Heard the word Jesus one time.

[pelagius]

Three speakers today:
1. Admitted she totally forgot it was easter until last night. Gave a talk about teaching.
2. Assigned bishopric topic was chastity (WTF???) , but was told she could pick her own topic if she wanted. Spoke on how great things were back in the 50s, when the bad girls had pierced ears, and the bad boys smoked, so it was easy to tell who to avoid. A family sitting w/ the missionaries, who smelled of smoke felt super welcome, I'm sure.
3. Holy Ghost. Scripture after scripture on the holy ghost.

Heard the word Jesus one time.

For what is worth, the church sent a letter out to Bishops about a month ago with instructions about Easter Sunday. The letter instructed (in part) that Sacrament meeting talks should focus on the resurrection of Jesus. Not sure why your ward deviated from the memo so significantly.

[risicam]

That reminds me of one of my worst experiences on a work trip.

The Jazz had a big game and there were a couple of other important games -- it was the last week of the NBA regular season. They had an option at the hotel where i was staying to get the NBA League Pass for the night for about $15 bucks and I had nothing better to do so I bought it.

Turns out the Jazz game had been picked up by NBATV so I still couldn't watch it. And then the bill that I had to turn in for reimbursement that I thought would say something about the NBA just said PPV Movie. And everybody knows what kind of PPV movie costs $15. Embarrassing.

How mortifying!

[The Fourth Nephite]

He was doing it wrong.

That's good. really good.