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I realized that the Book of Jacob doesn't read like the other books in the Book of Mormon. The voice seems different, and not just chapter 7."Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --SolonComment
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That reminds me of one of my worst experiences on a work trip.Originally posted by Non Sequitur View Post
The Jazz had a big game and there were a couple of other important games -- it was the last week of the NBA regular season. They had an option at the hotel where i was staying to get the NBA League Pass for the night for about $15 bucks and I had nothing better to do so I bought it.
Turns out the Jazz game had been picked up by NBATV so I still couldn't watch it. And then the bill that I had to turn in for reimbursement that I thought would say something about the NBA just said PPV Movie. And everybody knows what kind of PPV movie costs $15. Embarrassing.Comment
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There is no "Church". The Church was disestablished by the Edmunds Tucker Act in 1887. [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmunds%E2%80%93Tucker_Act"]Edmunds–Tucker Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]Originally posted by Scorcho View Post
From that time until 1923 property was held in the personal name of the President of the Church. This led to squabbles with family members after the deaths of Woodruff and Snow and JFSmith as to which property belonged to the Church and which belonged to the family (particularly after JFSmith's death).
So in 1923 Grant set up a Corporation Sole. [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporation_sole"]Corporation sole - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]
This legal structure ensures that a designated person automatically becomes the next shareholder upon the death of the previous shareholder. The way the articles of the Corporation of the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints are written, the President of the Quorum of the 12 automatically becomes the shareholder of the corporation sole upon the death of the previous Prophet/Shareholder.
I note that the Corporation of the Presiding Bishop of the CofJCofLDS was set up by Bishop Nibley in 1916, just prior to JFSmith's death and became the model for the Corp of the President. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Chu...legal_entities
So the short answer since HJG is that the Pres of the 12 is the next Pres of the Church because the corporate docs dictate that it must be this way. I suppose there would be some legal way around it if the Pres of the 12 agreed and cooperated, but this would be extraordinary.
You know that Pres. Monson's mental health is seriously in decline, right?Originally posted by byu71 View PostA Mormon president could make a perfectly patriotic, competent, inspiring leader. But not Mitt Romney. He is a husked void. --David JaverbaumComment
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My thoughts exactly.Originally posted by Solon View PostWe all trust our own unorthodoxies.Comment
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LOL! Legally you are correct, but an act of Congress has no bearing on the efficacy of Priesthood ordinances. The church is the body of its members and leadership. The church continued to exist even after the E-T Act.Originally posted by The Rambam View Post
From the church articles of incorporation:This legal structure ensures that a designated person automatically becomes the next shareholder upon the death of the previous shareholder. The way the articles of the Corporation of the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints are written, the President of the Quorum of the 12 automatically becomes the shareholder of the corporation sole upon the death of the previous Prophet/Shareholder.
I note that the Corporation of the Presiding Bishop of the CofJCofLDS was set up by Bishop Nibley in 1916, just prior to JFSmith's death and became the model for the Corp of the President. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Chu...legal_entities
So the short answer since HJG is that the Pres of the 12 is the next Pres of the Church because the corporate docs dictate that it must be this way. I suppose there would be some legal way around it if the Pres of the 12 agreed and cooperated, but this would be extraordinary.
Looks like the articles take into consideration that any of the apostles could become president. Sure it would be extraordinary given the precedent set over the years, but it's 100% allowable under the articles.ARTICLE FOURTH
Fourth: The title of the person making these articles of incorporation is "President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints." He and his successor in office shall be deemed and are hereby created a body politic and corporation sole with perpetual succession, having all the powers and rights and authority in these articles specified or provided for by law. But in the event of the death or resignation from office of the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, or in the event of a vacancy in that office from any cause, the President or Acting President of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles of said Church, or one of the members of said Quorum thereunto designated by that Quorum, shall, pending the installation of a successor President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, be the corporation sole under these articles, and the laws pursuant to which they are made, and shall be and is authorized in his official capacity to execute in the name of the corporation all documents or other writings necessary to the carrying on of its purposes, business and objects, and to do all things in the name of the corporation which the original signer of the articles of incorporation might do; it being the purpose of these articles that there shall be no failure in succession in the office of such corporation sole.
[Signed] Heber J. Grant
President of the Church of Jesus
Christ of Latter-day Saints,
corporation sole.
[Seal]"Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. UchtdorfComment
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Originally posted by Solon View PostWhile I agree people should stand up and protest, sometimes doing so is very uncomfortable. I'm not saying it's uncomfortable because you are creating dissension, it's uncomfortable because you oftentimes would be pointing out the ridiculousness of the thoughts of the instructor. Pointing this out in a tactful way can be tricky and I'm not tactful enough to pull it off.Originally posted by Sleeping in EQ View Post"Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. UchtdorfComment
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I agree... for me its also an aspect of not really paying attention then they say something crazy and as you are leaving it starts to hit you and you were like "wait what?...that is freaking crazy"Originally posted by Moliere View Post
An example for me is in January my SP in our priesthood meeting (ward conference) was talking about temple recommends and said something to the effect of when he defines chastity that includes masturbation. When I was sitting there I was thinking he was talking about the youth or something but as we were leaving it hit me. The inner mononlogue came through and it said "The SP is asking everyone if they masturbate or they can't get a temple recommend." I wish I had the time back so I could speak up but it was too late."Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum
"And here’s what life comes down to—not how many years you live, but how many of those years are filled with bullshit that doesn’t amount to anything to satisfy the requirements of some dickhead you’ll never get the pleasure of punching in the face." – Adam CarollaComment
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This reminds me of an experience at EFY. I think John Bytheway was the speaker and he was preaching on the evils of TV/media. In his inspiring way, he challenged the roomful of kids to not watch any TV for a month (maybe it was longer). I had no intention of so drastically changing my life, and when he asked everybody who would commit to stand up, my friend and I were the only ones who remained seated.Originally posted by Clark Addison View Post
I used to be such a rebel.Comment
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Wow, I am in my mid sixties and when watching a movie I will always last at least half way through the movie before I fall asleep. Maybe porno's are typically more boring. No good plots.Originally posted by RC Vikings View PostComment
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I don't think he was referring to the length of the film, but I could be wrong on that.Originally posted by byu71 View Post
Jesus wants me for a sunbeam.
"Cog dis is a bitch." -James PattersonComment
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Yea I was, what else is there?Originally posted by Green Monstah View PostI don't think he was referring to the length of the film, but I could be wrong on that.
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Originally posted by Indy Coug View PostLord, you can imagine where it goes from here.Originally posted by Bunny
He fixes the cable?
Don't be fatuous, Jeffrey.Comment
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