I learned in church today

[LA Ute]

I'll be honest; I'd never heard it before this thread, and I have had (and still have) many, many Jewish friends.

I don't really bring up the Shoah/Holocaust around them though, so maybe I've just never encountered it.

I've heard it mostly in connection with a landmark documentary from 1985 called Shoah: [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoah_%28film%29"]Shoah (film) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]. It's 9.5 hours long and is one of the things I want to watch someday (in small bites). In all honesty, I haven't been able to muster up the guts to watch it. I haven't seen Schindler's List yet either, for the same reason (my aversion to true horror). Someday I will.

[Omaha 680]

If you agree to give people rides to stake conference and your wife wakes up sick, you'll blow a perfectly good opportunity to miss the Sunday session.

[Dwight Schr-ute]

Some Sunday's, church happens at Disneyland.

[TexTechCoug]

I learned the password to the wifi in the chapel.

[Mormon Red Death]

If you agree to give people rides to stake conference and your wife wakes up sick, you'll blow a perfectly good opportunity to miss the Sunday session.

I learned that 2 weeks ago

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[HuskyFreeNorthwest]

I learned that a guy teaching EQ saw me at the WWE a couple Sunday's ago with Jr and Captain and wanted to make it part of today's lesson.

[Tim]

I learned that people who love God have no interest in changing the laws of the land, and that it's a sign that evil is creeping into a society when "people start changing laws."

[hostile]

I learned that people who love God have no interest in changing the laws of the land, and that it's a sign that evil is creeping into a society when "people start changing laws."

"Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria! "

[mtnbiker]

I learned that a guy who moved into my ward a year ago is actually a 2nd cousin to me, once removed. I was pretty surprised.

[Scorcho]

I know this thread has primarily been dedicated to what asinine, unbelievable thing we heard from the pulpit today, but I wanted to deviate from that tonight, because every so often something positive and uplifting occurs and those should be shared as well.

In EQ today we discussed lesson #5 from the George Albert Smith Manual. There was nothing really earth shattering about the topic, but what I found interesting was the way in which the instructor presented the lesson. The instructor approached it from a point of view that he was an outsider envying those that held the authority of God to act in his name. When his wife needed a Priesthood blessing he could not give it to her because he didn’t hold the Priesthood. When is so reached age 8, he was unable to baptize him or give him the gift of the holy ghost. He then told the story of how he had the Priesthood, was excommunicated and lost it, and had to work to get it back. It was an interesting approach, and one that required him to be more honest than most would have elected to be teaching that same topic. He simply described not having the Priesthood as a void, something you really couldn’t appreciate until you were without it.

His lesson had an impact on me. It made me really think deeply about the Priesthood and how often I discount it or minimize it my life.

[myboynoah]

I know this thread has primarily been dedicated to what asinine, unbelievable thing we heard from the pulpit today, but I wanted to deviate from that tonight, because every so often something positive and uplifting occurs and those should be shared as well.

In EQ today we discussed lesson #5 from the George Albert Smith Manual. There was nothing really earth shattering about the topic, but what I found interesting was the way in which the instructor presented the lesson. The instructor approached it from a point of view that he was an outsider envying those that held the authority of God to act in his name. When his wife needed a Priesthood blessing he could not give it to her because he didn’t hold the Priesthood. When is so reached age 8, he was unable to baptize him or give him the gift of the holy ghost. He then told the story of how he had the Priesthood, was excommunicated and lost it, and had to work to get it back. It was an interesting approach, and one that required him to be more honest than most would have elected to be teaching that same topic. He simply described not having the Priesthood as a void, something you really couldn’t appreciate until you were without it.

His lesson had an impact on me. It made me really think deeply about the Priesthood and how often I discount it or minimize it my life.

Thanks for sharing, Scorch. It's just fine to share great stuff as well.

After church I took my deacon-age son to provide the Sacrament for a branch member in the hospital. That was all-right. My wife reminded us that her father used to help take Communion to home- and hospital-bound parishioners on Sundays as well. That was even better.

[SeattleUte]

I learned that people who love God have no interest in changing the laws of the land, and that it's a sign that evil is creeping into a society when "people start changing laws."

This one is very funny, but you're probably just making fun of a stupid person.

[Tim]

This one is very funny, but you're probably just making fun of a stupid person.

This was actually a co-worker of mine who happens to teach Gospel Doctrine in my ward.

[SoCalCoug]

I've never really had issues with any of my local church leaders, for my entire life. But now, one of the counselors in our stake presidency just really gets me going, in a bad way. The other two members of the stake presidency, I absolutely love - both have been HUGE positive impacts in my life and my wife's family's life. But I told my wife today that I probably should just get up and walk out of the chapel when President C gets up to speak.

For the last 2 1/2 years, his pet issue has been cleanliness of the church building. And he's spoken about this before, so it shouldn't have been a surprise, but today he pretty much called to repentance "the mothers who put food in their diaper bags." He very clearly stated, don't bring food to church. He's particularly harsh on goldfish crackers. Seriously.

Of course, for certain events, it's okay only in the kitchen and the cultural hall, but of course every scrap must be cleaned up afterward.

But today he specifically targeted the moms who bring snacks for young children.

As a father of a 4-year-old and a 2-year-old who faithfully brings his family to church every Sunday from 11 a.m. to 2 p.m. (right during the lunch hour), I think either he's on a different spiritual plane than everyone else and has the ability to keep kids from being hungry at lunchtime, or he's really out of touch with the reality of parenting young children.

Of course, he also touched on the issue of disruptive kids - he told the story of a 10-year-old and a 6-year-old who walked into a chapel during sacrament meeting, and shoved each other as they walked in front of the sacrament table, so that an unrelated priesthood holder picked up the 10-year-old and carried him out of the chapel. He then called on all priesthood holders to be "reverence monitors" and mentioned how disruptive it was for children to run down the aisles.

I don't think he realizes that one of the benefits of the goldfish crackers is that it helps keep young kids occupied and calm for at least a little while.

I am not one who is easily offended, but it seems every time this guy speaks, I just get anger welling up inside.

One thing I do know, we're not going to stop bringing snacks for the kids. There's no way a toddler can go 3 hours without eating something.

Now, he didn't say this today (in fact, today he was very clear about how mothers shouldn't put food in their diaper bags) but in a previous ward conference (and goody, we have that in a week or two, so I'm sure we'll get the lecture from him again then) he said if we have to feed the kids something, take them out to the car. Seriously - he's telling parents of young kids to take them out to our cars if we want to give them a snack. In other words, cleanliness of the building is more important to him than allowing parents of young children to participate in sacrament meeting.

We didn't discuss this with anyone else in the ward today, but based on conversations we had after the last ward conference with some friends, I don't think we'd be the only ones who would just stay home during sacrament meeting (and possibly the entire 3-hour block) rather than have to spend sacrament meeting going back and forth to our car to feed our two kids. Maybe that's what he's doing - sifting the "wheat" from the "tares". But it really makes me wonder if I really want to be part of the same church he does.

[myboynoah]

I've never really had issues with any of my local church leaders, for my entire life. But now, one of the counselors in our stake presidency just really gets me going, in a bad way. The other two members of the stake presidency, I absolutely love - both have been HUGE positive impacts in my life and my wife's family's life. But I told my wife today that I probably should just get up and walk out of the chapel when President C gets up to speak.

For the last 2 1/2 years, his pet issue has been cleanliness of the church building. And he's spoken about this before, so it shouldn't have been a surprise, but today he pretty much called to repentance "the mothers who put food in their diaper bags." He very clearly stated, don't bring food to church. He's particularly harsh on goldfish crackers. Seriously.

Of course, for certain events, it's okay only in the kitchen and the cultural hall, but of course every scrap must be cleaned up afterward.

But today he specifically targeted the moms who bring snacks for young children.

As a father of a 4-year-old and a 2-year-old who faithfully brings his family to church every Sunday from 11 a.m. to 2 p.m. (right during the lunch hour), I think either he's on a different spiritual plane than everyone else and has the ability to keep kids from being hungry at lunchtime, or he's really out of touch with the reality of parenting young children.

Of course, he also touched on the issue of disruptive kids - he told the story of a 10-year-old and a 6-year-old who walked into a chapel during sacrament meeting, and shoved each other as they walked in front of the sacrament table, so that an unrelated priesthood holder picked up the 10-year-old and carried him out of the chapel. He then called on all priesthood holders to be "reverence monitors" and mentioned how disruptive it was for children to run down the aisles.

I don't think he realizes that one of the benefits of the goldfish crackers is that it helps keep young kids occupied and calm for at least a little while.

I am not one who is easily offended, but it seems every time this guy speaks, I just get anger welling up inside.

One thing I do know, we're not going to stop bringing snacks for the kids. There's no way a toddler can go 3 hours without eating something.

Now, he didn't say this today (in fact, today he was very clear about how mothers shouldn't put food in their diaper bags) but in a previous ward conference (and goody, we have that in a week or two, so I'm sure we'll get the lecture from him again then) he said if we have to feed the kids something, take them out to the car. Seriously - he's telling parents of young kids to take them out to our cars if we want to give them a snack. In other words, cleanliness of the building is more important to him than allowing parents of young children to participate in sacrament meeting.

We didn't discuss this with anyone else in the ward today, but based on conversations we had after the last ward conference with some friends, I don't think we'd be the only ones who would just stay home during sacrament meeting (and possibly the entire 3-hour block) than have to spend sacrament meeting going back and forth to our car to feed our two kids. Maybe that's what he's doing - sifting the "wheat" from the "tares". But it really makes me wonder if I really want to be part of the same church he does.

I agree, goldfish are great. Our kids also really liked cheezits, not cheese nips, but cheezits.

I remember an older couple commenting one time on the unruly children running around the cultural hall after a Christmas Party. Dang, I thought that was party of the program, kids run around while the adults clean up.

I'd just ignore him.