I learned in church today

[smokymountainrain]

Ouch, that's actually a pretty mean thing to say.

sorry. I crossed a line. please forgive me.

[lambdacoug]

Same-sex attraction and marriage are not Blacks and the Priesthood 2 Electric Boogaloo, so stop comparing them.

Sure... I'm sure blacks and the priesthood also wasn't polygamy 2.0.

We'll see in 10-20 years just how embarrassing this really turns out to be...

[lambdacoug]

nojesusforyou.jpg

[old_gregg]

glad to see you are enduring day 1 appropriately

[TripletDaddy]

glad to see you are enduring day 1 appropriately

yeah i thought we had seen the last of those memes? i would like to hear more scenarios in which children would not allowed to be baptized.

[optimomojo]

http://kutv.com/news/local/lds-churc...dered-apostasy

http://kutv.com/news/local/lds-churc...rom-membership

No surprise that the church's bigotry against gays extends to their children.

[optimomojo]

The Church doesn't want to steal children away and pit them against their parents.

Bullshit! The church always comes before families, or its version of it.

The Church doesn't baptize underage children against the wishes of their parents even outside same-sex marriage situations. This is in line with that practice, too.

More bullshit. The church's policy of baptizing underage children against the wishes of their parents even outside same-sex marriage situations *post divorce* is ambiguous. The church doesn't have much respect for marginalized, "non-custodial" parents.

[optimomojo]

i would like to hear more scenarios in which children would not allowed to be baptized.

This is great news for a divorced apostate who wants to protect his children from a cult-like religion. A divorced apostate can allege to local leaders that s/he is a cohabitating lesbian/gay, and the church automatically no longer welcome the kids who live with her/him to baptism, priesthood, etc.

I can only imagine how a divorced, active mormon might feel betrayed by the church about this policy that could affect her/his kids.

[optimomojo]

Another way to look at this is as being MORE respectful of the same-sex parents, rather than a slap in the face. It prevents parents and underage, living-at-home children from being put in a very awkward place. A place where children must adhere to a position that is at odds with the deeply held beliefs and practices of the parents while still living together and the parents are still raising their kids. It actually seems to me to be respectful of the parents to not have your children set at odds with you. This is a recognition that a parent's wishes and beliefs are respected. Until they turn of age and presumably mature enough to understand the difference between loving the people who raised you even if you don't agree with their lifestyle. It prevents contention and trouble in the home.

Bullshit. This policy addresses nothing in regards to these kids still attending church, where most of the issues you bring up are still present.

[Flystripper]

This is great news for a divorced apostate who wants to protect his children from a cult-like religion. A divorced apostate can allege to local leaders that s/he is a cohabitating lesbian/gay, and the church automatically no longer welcome the kids who live with her/him to baptism, priesthood, etc.

I can only imagine how a divorced, active mormon might feel betrayed by the church about this policy that could affect her/his kids.

though not a scenario per se this is in the spirit of day 2. Keep em coming!

[pellegrino]

Good post. I can't say whether you are right or wrong, but at least you are giving another possible viewpoint, unlike these bastards who responded to you with scorn. I couldn't stand CB's ultra-orthodox lack of tolerance, but I see that the The Foyer is the same, in the other direction. It's been said many times before, but it's always funny to see how intolerant the self-labeled tolerant crowd can be.

Sometimes people will ask LDS Ute fans how they can cheer for Utah and against BYU. That seems like a silly argument. But I'm not sure why someone who disagrees with what BYU stands for, and the beliefs of the church, would want to cheer for BYU. If you really have such harsh feelings towards the church, and are sure that you know better, then I welcome you to pile on the bitter, disenfranchised bandwagon of the Ute 15% with SeattleUte, MPFunk, and their buddies. You're headed that way, so why wait.

It'snot you, it's us.

[cougjunkie]

I learned in church today

Bullshit. This policy addresses nothing in regards to these kids still attending church, where most of the issues you bring up are still present.

I thought you took your ball and went home? I am not surprised you are both an apostate and divorced.

I assume UtahDan and Nikuman will show up next.

[Crockett]

More bullshit. The church's policy of baptizing underage children against the wishes of their parents even outside same-sex marriage situations *post divorce* is ambiguous. The church doesn't have much respect for marginalized, "non-custodial" parents.

I know what your favorite word is! Thanks for sharing.

If one parent doesn't have custody and the other does and the one who does gives permission then I see no problem with that. The parent w/o custody needs to take it up with the law, not the Church. If there is joint or shared custody, then I would favor getting permission from both parents. I don't know what the official Church policy is on that.

[San Juan Sun]

I thought you took your ball and went home? I am not surprised you are both an apostate and divorced.

I assume UtahDan and Nikuman will show up next.

I don't think niku is divorced.

[old_gregg]

I don't think niku is divorced.

i like niku. good dude.