I learned in church today

[il Padrino Ute]

The really sad thing about these kinds of posts is that cj thinks he's a good person. Hell, I bet he even thinks he knows that he's a good person, doing the Lord's work here.

I love you wuap and I don't really want to defend junkie here, but who made you the arbiter of who is a good or a bad person?

[optimomojo]

I am not surprised you are both an apostate and divorced.

I'm not surprised you're an insufferable, sanctimonious douchebag.

[optimomojo]

It would be nice if the Church came out and elaborated on this policy.

Another way to look at this is as being MORE respectful of the same-sex parents, rather than a slap in the face. It prevents parents and underage, living-at-home children from being put in a very awkward place. A place where children must adhere to a position that is at odds with the deeply held beliefs and practices of the parents while still living together and the parents are still raising their kids. It actually seems to me to be respectful of the parents to not have your children set at odds with you. This is a recognition that a parent's wishes and beliefs are respected. Until they turn of age and presumably mature enough to understand the difference between loving the people who raised you even if you don't agree with their lifestyle. It prevents contention and trouble in the home. The Church doesn't want to steal children away and pit them against their parents. The Church doesn't baptize underage children against the wishes of their parents even outside same-sex marriage situations. This is in line with that practice, too. I understand there could be situations where those parents would actually have given permission, but I suspect that would be a rather small number. This policy also allows for exceptions with First Presidency approval. The Lord and the Church play the long game -- the child will have every opportunity to join the Church in adulthood.

Some of you are so quick to assume the worst of motives for the Church on this.

Christopherson clarified the new policy in an interview last night. However, if this policy really were about protecting children from conflict, and prioritizing and protecting family integrity, as Christopherson wants to lead us to believe, then the church would have a much broader coherent policy. For example, it would not baptize any child under 18 unless both parents were practicing mormons. The fact is the church and its culture has a history of undermining family and parental authority of those who do not accept the church. The church has always been a higher priority than families, and that priority is a cause for divorce among split-faith couples when a spouse values church ideology more than his/her spouse.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/8...-children.html

[cougjunkie]

I'm not surprised you're an insufferable, sanctimonious douchebag.

You shouldn't be. I own it.

[Donuthole]

I learned in church today

Regional Conference edition:

I learned that when the speakers in the gym aren't connecting with the podium microphone, connecting a cell phone via aux cable and calling it from another phone on speaker and then setting that phone on the podium is an inadequate workaround. I also learned that most people will hang around for about 30 mins before leaving because they can't hear. Others will stay, presumably out of some sort of demonstration of righteousness?

Consider me bummed, as I'm pretty sure my SP's pre-broadcast talk was a lot of chastising those who are criticizing the new policy.

[San Juan Sun]

Regional Conference edition:

I learned that when the speakers in the gym aren't connecting with the podium microphone, connecting a cell phone via aux cable and calling it from another phone on speaker and then setting that phone on the podium is an inadequate workaround. I also learned that most people will hang around for about 30 mins before leaving because they can't hear. Others will stay, presumably out of some sort of demonstration of righteousness?

Consider me bummed, as I'm pretty sure my SP's pre-broadcast talk was a lot of chastising those who are criticizing the new policy.

Endure to the end

[Moliere]

You should have fewer credit cards

[Bo Diddley]

You should have fewer credit cards

We have 15-20 credit cards. I go after promotion points off the minimum spend, and then let them sit until the first year's up. Half a dozen of the credit cards are 10-20 years old. I keep those to balance all the new ones.

Going to England next year with $1000's of free travel benefits.

[Surfah]

Primary program. My oldest designed the cover of the program. My favorite Sunday.

[LVAllen]

We have 15-20 credit cards. I go after promotion points off the minimum spend, and then let them sit until the first year's up. Half a dozen of the credit cards are 10-20 years old. I keep those to balance all the new ones.

Going to England next year with $1000's of free travel benefits.

Apostate. I'm sure I heard Elder Dave Ramsey say credit cards were of the debbil.

[hostile]

Primary program. My oldest designed the cover of the program. My favorite Sunday.

Ditto.

[HuskyFreeNorthwest]

Primary program. My oldest designed the cover of the program. My favorite Sunday.

Ditto.

Likewise, except for the artwork.

[HuskyFreeNorthwest]

We have 15-20 credit cards. I go after promotion points off the minimum spend, and then let them sit until the first year's up. Half a dozen of the credit cards are 10-20 years old. I keep those to balance all the new ones.

Going to England next year with $1000's of free travel benefits.

I never had a credit card until about 6-7 years ago Triplet got on me for being silly always just using my debit card. Now I have an Amazon card and have had nearly free Christmases the last two years. Thanks, Triple Father!

[SCcoug]

PriPro for me too. My little one had a solo of the first two lines of "I'm Trying To Be Like Jesus". She sang the next line too before hanging of the mic.

[hostile]

Likewise, except for the artwork.

I should clarify: my children didn't do the artwork either. Ditto on the other 2.