Originally posted by RC Vikings
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THisis an interesting point. I have also sat in that position and considered not even going to the tithing settlment. IN teh end I did go, however, as I decided if I was going to deceid not to pay tithing I should at least be willing to be open about it in front of my family. If I felt guilty about it then I decided I needed to decide why and deal with the cource of the guilt. My bishop was very cool about it. Just asked the question, filled out the form, chatted witht he fmaily and said positive things.PLesa excuse the tpyos. -
I usually have a pretty good feel for who is or isn't a FT payer. Not so much by the dollar amount, but looking at the frequency. If I see $200 every month Jan-May then no payments again until Oct it isn't too hard to figure out. If that is the case I would talk to each of the children about tithing and let them declare, hand them a truffle and ask to speak to mom and dad privately for a second. After mom or dad sheepishly state they are only partial payers this year, I focus on trying to make the commitment to be a full tithe payer for the upcoming year. Some people want to repay what they have missed, which I think is a great idea, but I'm always more concerned about going forward than I am at looking back.Originally posted by RC Vikings View Post
This year I have had several more PT payer than in past years. Most the time only the full payer show up for their appointment. It has been a great experience to focus on the positive and thank them for what they have done. I hope most of the partial payers have left feeling better about themselves than when they came in.
In answer to the previous question, yes I know how much a person has paid, but I have never questioned anyone on their declaration. In several instance I have both signed off on TR and declared FT for sisters whose husbands are adamant against paying tithing. It is obviously a judgment call, but if I feel they would pay it, if not for the marital disharmony then the last thing I want to do is deny them the blessings of the temple.Comment
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I told the bishop last night that I'm a full tithe payer even though I haven't paid tithing in 2009. He thought it was funny (and confusing) that my son paid more tithing than I did.Comment
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Any particular reason? This is what I don't understand about T-Sett. Why is this bit of unworthiness (at least per TR standards) deemed appropriate to discuss in a group setting?Originally posted by creekster View Post
Do you feel similarly about relating to your family unworthiness to any of the other TR recommend questions? I would guess not but I am failing to see a difference between feeling the need to tell your kids that you are not a full tithe payer and telling your kids that you sometimes view pornography or sometimes drink beer (not YOU specifically, of course)
I agree with your decision to be a full tithe payer, btw. I have no qualms with that.Fitter. Happier. More Productive.
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Sign-up sheets are in the foyer again. As for me and my house, we're not going. The less time I have to spend around my bishop, the better for us all. I don't even wear pants to work, let alone putting them on to drive over to our building and sit in furniture that Super 8 won't put in its rooms to tell a man who doesn't like me that I paid 10% this year just so he can check a box."Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --SolonComment
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Aren't you the happy one...Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
I am probably going to get a talking too because along with doing tithing online, I also did my Fast Offerings also. Just makes it so much easier.Comment
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I agree with EJ. My bishop says tithing settlement is the only time of the year he gets to meet with the stalwarts of the flock. He says it refreshes him for all of the other weeks where he has to meet with the problem children.
(Of course he doesnt say it that way)Comment
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Our Bishop called and politely asked us to come in for tithing settlement this Sunday. I thanked him and politely told him that we were full tithe payers. He then politely re-asked us to come in this Sunday for tithing settlement.
I think Mormons are predisposed to crave meetings and bureaucracy.Fitter. Happier. More Productive.
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Interesting that the bish called and not hte ex sec. Someone has too much time on their hands!Originally posted by TripletDaddy View PostOur Bishop called and politely asked us to come in for tithing settlement this Sunday. I thanked him and politely told him that we were full tithe payers. He then politely re-asked us to come in this Sunday for tithing settlement.
I think Mormons are predisposed to crave meetings and bureaucracy.
Our tighting settlement was great. Our bish is very down to earth and gave us a great challenge for the next year. MJ and I are very motivated to do what he asked.
Next year we are going "The Tick" route and paying online. Shouldn't be a problem since I know several others that take this route so our bish is used to this."Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. UchtdorfComment
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I think I am going to switch over to online, as well. Is there a link?Originally posted by Eddie Jones View PostFitter. Happier. More Productive.
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Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post"Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. UchtdorfComment
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who is Alan Brown?Originally posted by Eddie Jones View Post
that site looks pretty Raton Mickey for me to be sending cash over its wavelengths. Is that really how you do it?Fitter. Happier. More Productive.
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Sorry, bad link. Here's the real one:Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
I haven't started using it yet. I printed off and filled out the form last night. I'll email it today and then try it out in January.
Essentially you just set up the church in bill pay and then send money using your membership number to identify you as the person donating the funds. I know of some people in my ward that do this, but then they also make sure and donate their fast offerings to the ward through the old process."Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. UchtdorfComment
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No surprise, but I'm against tithing settlement. It's no more than a manipulation to get people to pay tithing. I know bishops try their best not to make it that, but that's what it is, and it's very hard to make it much more than that.Comment
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