Remember to show up for tithing settlement

[dabrockster]

Aren't bishops supposed to spend over half their time with the youth? Surely you don't mean that working with the you is 100% inverse of enjoyable.

If he is like our Bishop. He has alot of other members taking a substantial amount of time for monetary reasons or other issues..

It has jumped substantially this year.. I can see the weight he bears from these families and even investigator families..

[Art Vandelay]

Aren't bishops supposed to spend over half their time with the youth? Surely you don't mean that working with the you is 100% inverse of enjoyable.

My little quip was referring to the adults not the youth. My personal philosophy is delegate everything I can to counselors, quorum and auxiliary leaders and focus on the youth. Partly because I feel my time makes more of difference with them, but primarily because I love spending time with them.

[cougjunkie]

Having never been to tithing settlement, does the bishop have the amount in front you that you have paid throughout the year?

Does he look at Brother Smith who is a clerk at the grocery store and see that he has paid $3600.00 this year in Tithing and when he says he is a full tithe payer the bishop knowing his occupation thinks ok this guy is being truthful.

Or when he sees Brother Whitehead who is an attorney and sees that he only paid about $2000 in tithing, and still says he is a full tithe payer does the bishop call him on it?

What if someone has not paid any tithing still claims to be a full tithe payer and the Bishop knows this?

[dabrockster]

Having never been to tithing settlement, does the bishop have the amount in front you that you have paid throughout the year?

Does he look at Brother Smith who is a clerk at the grocery store and see that he has paid $3600.00 this year in Tithing and when he says he is a full tithe payer the bishop knowing his occupation thinks ok this guy is being truthful.

Or when he sees Brother Whitehead who is an attorney and sees that he only paid about $2000 in tithing, and still says he is a full tithe payer does the bishop call him on it?

What if someone has not paid any tithing still claims to be a full tithe payer and the Bishop knows this?

I have a feeling that those who fall into that example. Probably do not even schedule a tithing settlement at all... This will most likely come up if they are looking to renew Temple recommends or something like that.... But again.. What do I know. I'm just a lowly Elder.. ;-)

[myboynoah]

Having never been to tithing settlement, does the bishop have the amount in front you that you have paid throughout the year?

Does he look at Brother Smith who is a clerk at the grocery store and see that he has paid $3600.00 this year in Tithing and when he says he is a full tithe payer the bishop knowing his occupation thinks ok this guy is being truthful.

Or when he sees Brother Whitehead who is an attorney and sees that he only paid about $2000 in tithing, and still says he is a full tithe payer does the bishop call him on it?

What if someone has not paid any tithing still claims to be a full tithe payer and the Bishop knows this?

Yep, I think that's how it goes in most cases. Tithing isn't always paid through the ward. It can be paid directly to The Church, in which case the local unit has no record.

I'm sure there are leaders out there that might note if things don't seem to make sense, but I bet in most cases they just accept the answer and move on.

[myboynoah]

Having a temple recommend serves the same purpose. I can see tithing settlement for people without them. The noting tithe status on the records of the Church seems superfluous.

Hey, take it up with the editor of the Lord's magazine.

[Moliere]

Having never been to tithing settlement, does the bishop have the amount in front you that you have paid throughout the year?

Does he look at Brother Smith who is a clerk at the grocery store and see that he has paid $3600.00 this year in Tithing and when he says he is a full tithe payer the bishop knowing his occupation thinks ok this guy is being truthful.

Or when he sees Brother Whitehead who is an attorney and sees that he only paid about $2000 in tithing, and still says he is a full tithe payer does the bishop call him on it?

What if someone has not paid any tithing still claims to be a full tithe payer and the Bishop knows this?

In our ward the financial clerk prints out estimated salary ranges from www.careerbuilder.com. He hands this report along with the tithing settlement statement (which has the total tithing multiplied times 10 to get estimated member's salary) to the bishop. If the member's estimated salary falls out of the careerbuilder range then the bishop requires a reason for it being out of the range, unless it is over the range then of course he doesn't care.

[jay santos]

In our ward the financial clerk prints out estimated salary ranges from www.careerbuilder.com. He hands this report along with the tithing settlement statement (which has the total tithing multiplied times 10 to get estimated member's salary) to the bishop. If the member's estimated salary falls out of the careerbuilder range then the bishop requires a reason for it being out of the range, unless it is over the range then of course he doesn't care.

Please tell me this is a joke.

[Jeff Lebowski]

In our ward the financial clerk prints out estimated salary ranges from www.careerbuilder.com. He hands this report along with the tithing settlement statement (which has the total tithing multiplied times 10 to get estimated member's salary) to the bishop. If the member's estimated salary falls out of the careerbuilder range then the bishop requires a reason for it being out of the range, unless it is over the range then of course he doesn't care.

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[happyone]

Everyone I've ever been to, the Bishop accepts your declaration and marks the sheet what you told him

[Moliere]

Please tell me this is a joke.

I thought I made it outlandish enough to not necessitate a TIC smiley.

[jay santos]

I thought I made it outlandish enough to not necessitate a TIC smiley.

My bad. I assumed it was but had to make sure. That would have been a great story to pass on.

[LA Ute]

I thought I made it outlandish enough to not necessitate a TIC smiley.

Rats. I had already forwarded your post to my bishop as a suggestion. Maybe we'll do it anyway.

[RC Vikings]

Wen else can the entire family sit on the bishop's office together under pleasant circumstances? I still remember going with my parents when I was just a little boy, and some of the things my bishops taught me at the time. I think those of you who find it such an annoyance are not seeing the forest.

Their have been times in my life where I have not been a full tithe payer and it is not a pleasant experience to sit their and tell the bishop in front of your children you are not a full tithe payer. I know the remedy would be to pay a full tithing but I wasn't and it was a very awkward moment for me.

[LA Ute]

Their have been times in my life where I have not been a full tithe payer and it is not a pleasant experience to sit their and tell the bishop in front of your children you are not a full tithe payer. I know the remedy would be to pay a full tithing but I wasn't and it was a very awkward moment for me.

This makes lots of sense. It seems to me that bihops ought to be sensitive to this and the children who are old enough to understand what's going on ought not be in the room during the declaration portion. If I am ever asked what the policy should be I will say that. (I'm still waiting to be asked about any church policy, but you never know . . . .)