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  • Originally posted by ERCougar View Post
    Personally, I'd reverse your smoke and foil times, but you may have already tried that. I think the foil ruins the bark, so I only did about an hour in foil yesterday and it seemed better.

    I'm curious how your new smokers will do the drop from 275 to 225. I think it would take me a good half hour to drop that much--insulated smokers don't dissipate heat very well. The gravity feed may help though.
    Open the door and the heat will drop no problem.
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    • Most comp teams foil their ribs. These are KCBS grand champs. What exactly is getting "ruined" by foiling??
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      • Originally posted by Surfah View Post
        Open the door and the heat will drop no problem.
        I was going to say the same thing. ER don't you ever just open the lid and let the heat out a bit?

        the gravity feed like won't have much bearing on raising and lowering temps. It simply refers to the way in which the coal is fed into the chute.
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        • Originally posted by Surfah View Post
          Open the door and the heat will drop no problem.
          Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
          Most comp teams foil their ribs. These are KCBS grand champs. What exactly is getting "ruined" by foiling??
          Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
          I was going to say the same thing. ER don't you ever just open the lid and let the heat out a bit?

          the gravity feed like won't have much bearing on raising and lowering temps. It simply refers to the way in which the coal is fed into the chute.
          I don't think foil alone ruins it, but soaking for a couple of hours in apple juice does. Dilutes and washes it away. This isn't my idea--I've read a few places to be careful with it, which is why I tried shortening the foil time. I like it better, but to each his own.

          Opening the door works for a minute, but it climbs right back up immediately (and sometimes higher with the big oxygen surge), since the amount of coals that got you there in the first place are still there burning away. Gravity feed may help this because you always only have a limited number of coals lit. Or it may not help much--that's why I'm curious.
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          • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
            Interesting. I bought a big bottle of that rub a year ago and nobody liked it so I threw it away.
            My wife came home with some pre-rubbed ribs from Costco. I wasn't a fan though these were also the racks I was also cooking on the grill.
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            • Originally posted by mtnbiker View Post
              Yes, I cooked them the same amount of time. For the initial stage I was gone to church so I put them on at the same time. I ended up coming home for a minute to change temps and get an ice bag for my wife, who sprained her wrist just before church, and wish I'd have held off the beef until then. Having split the beef into smaller bits, they were much smaller and thinner than the pork ribs.



              Yup. Used pretty much every bit of it. Last time I cooked up ribs, I did 5 and filled it then, too. I guess I could get the vertical rib rack to save space. How much does that really help, though? Does it change the way the meat cooks at all?
              I've cooked 9 racks of ribs at one time on my Lil Tex using a rib stand. Didn't seem to effect the end result though saucing them for the last stage was a little more tricky.

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              • Originally posted by ERCougar View Post
                I don't think foil alone ruins it, but soaking for a couple of hours in apple juice does. Dilutes and washes it away. This isn't my idea--I've read a few places to be careful with it, which is why I tried shortening the foil time. I like it better, but to each his own.
                You are in luck! You can always cut back on the apple juice. However, even then you will get liquid in the foil from the meat. But that isn't going to wash away any rub because by then your rub should be mostly absorbed into the eat. You can also add some more rub before or after you glaze them. That is a fairly common technique and they call it "finishing rub".

                And DDD is right: virtually all of the top comp teams foil their ribs. And most of them are using the Johnny Trig method (brown sugar, honey, & butter in the foil).
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                • I tried the Trigg method two weeks ago and was pleased with the result. I'm going to try DT's method since my ribs have been a tad dry the last few go rounds.

                  As an aside, the spare ribs at Salt Lick were incredible yesterday. They claim to cook them hit and fast with plenty of basting to keep moist.
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                  • Saying that the comp teams do it is the CS BBQ mafia's way of saying the brethren have spoken.

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                    • Originally posted by kccougar View Post
                      I've cooked 9 racks of ribs at one time on my Lil Tex using a rib stand. Didn't seem to effect the end result though saucing them for the last stage was a little more tricky.
                      Where did you get your racks?
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                      • Originally posted by YOhio View Post
                        Saying that the comp teams do it is the CS BBQ mafia's way of saying the brethren have spoken.
                        comp teams will never lead you astray.
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                        • Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                          comp teams will never lead you astray.
                          The competition circuit would remove them before they could.

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                          • Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                            Where did you get your racks?
                            They were Costco ribs.
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                            • Please YO. No evil speaking of the bbq anointed.
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                              • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                                One more thing, there is nothing sacred about the 1.5-2.0-0.75 sequence outlined in the OP, other than it is a system that works consistently well with pellet smokers. I have noticed that some of the comp teams use a very similar sequence, but some of them start out with a 2 hour first stage (sometimes at a higher temp) followed by a shorter foil stage. I am sure we could find other combinations that work OK. If anyone has a different sequence that works great, let me know and I can add it to the OP.
                                As I've mentioned before, my Traeger seems to cook a little cooler than everyone else's here. I have to use the full 3-2-1 method. Lately I've smoked (looks like it's about 135* on my smoker) for an hour or so, then upping to 225* (that's the control setting, not necessarily the actual temp) for the rest of the 3-hour cook. I foil with apple juice (the juice just provides extra moisture to steam the ribs - they're not swimming in it) at 275* for 2 hours, then baste with bbq sauce and cook unfoiled for 1 hour at 225*. We like the result. Cooking at the shorter times that JL mentions leaves the meat chewy and it doesn't come off the bone at all.

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