The "did you know this streams on Netflix?" thread

[Commando]

I just watched the One Piece series on Netflix, based on the endless anime series of the same name. It was a lot of fun, but you kind of do have to keep in mind that it is based on anime. Good for kids, too, despite a bit of salty language.

[SteelBlue]

Anyone watching Living to 100: Secrets of the Blue Zones? It's really interesting to me for one specific reason, the Seventh Day Adventists. The only American Blue Zone is Loma Linda, California. There is an entire episode on the Adventists and why they live to 100 at a rate much higher than other Americans. All of the listed reasons they have in common with Mormonism: A sabbath with rest, a community that encourages volunteerism, a sense of purpose. But the biggest one is their diet. They avoid the things Mormons avoid but the focus is a positive one, generally pointed toward eating a plant based diet with less than 5% of their calories coming from fish or other meats.

It's interesting to me that there is not a Utah Blue Zone. After watching this show I'm convinced it's because the LDS culture takes a proscriptive approach to health while the Adventist culture seems to take a prescriptive one. It would be interesting to learn how the LDS culture came to embrace red meat like it does. Also sugar, processed foods etc.... I suspect that those who live the LDS lifestyle and who have a personally prescriptive approach to health are living as long as Adventists, but that there just aren't many doing it. I wonder if there will someday be a shift toward the positives of the WoW, (and save your comments that they already do, I only left a few years ago) and more of an embracing of the plant based diet that that it prescribes? I feel like a Mormon Blue Zone is right there for the taking with just the slightest cultural shift.

[Pelado]

Anyone watching Living to 100: Secrets of the Blue Zones? It's really interesting to me for one specific reason, the Seventh Day Adventists. The only American Blue Zone is Loma Linda, California. There is an entire episode on the Adventists and why they live to 100 at a rate much higher than other Americans. All of the listed reasons they have in common with Mormonism: A sabbath with rest, a community that encourages volunteerism, a sense of purpose. But the biggest one is their diet. They avoid the things Mormons avoid but the focus is a positive one, generally pointed toward eating a plant based diet with less than 5% of their calories coming from fish or other meats.

It's interesting to me that there is not a Utah Blue Zone. After watching this show I'm convinced it's because the LDS culture takes a proscriptive approach to health while the Adventist culture seems to take a prescriptive one. It would be interesting to learn how the LDS culture came to embrace red meat like it does. Also sugar, processed foods etc.... I suspect that those who live the LDS lifestyle and who have a personally prescriptive approach to health are living as long as Adventists, but that there just aren't many doing it. I wonder if there will someday be a shift toward the positives of the WoW, (and save your comments that they already do, I only left a few years ago) and more of an embracing of the plant based diet that that it prescribes? I feel like a Mormon Blue Zone is right there for the taking with just the slightest cultural shift.

You know how many cookie and soda shops are on the Wasatch Front?

[SteelBlue]

You know how many cookie and soda shops are on the Wasatch Front?

I've heard. Maybe "just the slightest cultural shift" was an understatement.

[PaloAltoCougar]

Anyone watching Living to 100: Secrets of the Blue Zones? It's really interesting to me for one specific reason, the Seventh Day Adventists. The only American Blue Zone is Loma Linda, California. There is an entire episode on the Adventists and why they live to 100 at a rate much higher than other Americans. All of the listed reasons they have in common with Mormonism: A sabbath with rest, a community that encourages volunteerism, a sense of purpose. But the biggest one is their diet. They avoid the things Mormons avoid but the focus is a positive one, generally pointed toward eating a plant based diet with less than 5% of their calories coming from fish or other meats.

It's interesting to me that there is not a Utah Blue Zone. After watching this show I'm convinced it's because the LDS culture takes a proscriptive approach to health while the Adventist culture seems to take a prescriptive one. It would be interesting to learn how the LDS culture came to embrace red meat like it does. Also sugar, processed foods etc.... I suspect that those who live the LDS lifestyle and who have a personally prescriptive approach to health are living as long as Adventists, but that there just aren't many doing it. I wonder if there will someday be a shift toward the positives of the WoW, (and save your comments that they already do, I only left a few years ago) and more of an embracing of the plant based diet that that it prescribes? I feel like a Mormon Blue Zone is right there for the taking with just the slightest cultural shift.

You're right about that Living to 100 episode. Very interesting and, except for the diet elements, reflective of LDS culture. I agree very strongly with your proscriptive vs. prescriptive distinction and wish we, a a people, did a lot better in that department. Too often people think that if they don't smoke or drink coffee or demon rum, they're good on the Section 89 front. That's so far off the mark. I wish the Church were more outspoken on the prescriptive front (if nothing else, it would make for some livelier temple recommend interviews...).

Watching that episode and the bit about the Loma Linda Medical Center brings up yet again a longstanding wish of mine (part of my former campaign to set policy for the Church, including a major overhaul of the mission department--call me Uzzah). During the early days of the AIDS epidemic, and continuing ever since, I've wished the Church would build a medical center either near the Provo airport or on the former Provo High campus with a new rail service going from the airport to downtown Provo and the BYU campus. The med school would focus on third world disease and on developing a more proactive approach to health and longevity (see, e.g., Peter Attia's Medicine 3.0 in Outlive). The medical school would alsof ocus on training future physicians, PAs, and nurses for service in the third world, and would tie in with the Church's missionary department. Imagine the good that could be done if at least a couple billion (or a lot more) were used for those purposes.

[SteelBlue]

You're right about that Living to 100 episode. Very interesting and, except for the diet elements, reflective of LDS culture. I agree very strongly with your proscriptive vs. prescriptive distinction and wish we, a a people, did a lot better in that department. Too often people think that if they don't smoke or drink coffee or demon rum, they're good on the Section 89 front. That's so far off the mark. I wish the Church were more outspoken on the prescriptive front (if nothing else, it would make for some livelier temple recommend interviews...).

Watching that episode and the bit about the Loma Linda Medical Center brings up yet again a longstanding wish of mine (part of my former campaign to set policy for the Church, including a major overhaul of the mission department--call me Uzzah). During the early days of the AIDS epidemic, and continuing ever since, I've wished the Church would build a medical center either near the Provo airport or on the former Provo High campus with a new rail service going from the airport to downtown Provo and the BYU campus. The med school would focus on third world disease and on developing a more proactive approach to health and longevity (see, e.g., Peter Attia's Medicine 3.0 in Outlive). The medical school would alsof ocus on training future physicians, PAs, and nurses for service in the third world, and would tie in with the Church's missionary department. Imagine the good that could be done if at least a couple billion (or a lot more) were used for those purposes.

I love your ideas about a hospital and med school. Could be a real force for good in the world.

[Clark Addison]

I am not an expert on this and haven't listened to the podcast, but I saw something on this the other day that basically claimed that the most common thing you found in blue zones was... bad record keeping. And when record keeping improved and ages were more accurately documented, there were far fewer cases of people living to extreme ages than previously claimed.

Sorry to be a killjoy!

https://www.livescience.com/oldest-p...be-so-old.html

[SteelBlue]

I am not an expert on this and haven't listened to the podcast, but I saw something on this the other day that basically claimed that the most common thing you found in blue zones was... bad record keeping. And when record keeping improved and ages were more accurately documented, there were far fewer cases of people living to extreme ages than previously claimed.

Sorry to be a killjoy!

https://www.livescience.com/oldest-p...be-so-old.html

I could see that being true in several of the mentioned zones but this seems unlikely in Loma Linda.

[Northwestcoug]

Watching that episode and the bit about the Loma Linda Medical Center brings up yet again a longstanding wish of mine (part of my former campaign to set policy for the Church, including a major overhaul of the mission department--call me Uzzah). During the early days of the AIDS epidemic, and continuing ever since, I've wished the Church would build a medical center either near the Provo airport or on the former Provo High campus with a new rail service going from the airport to downtown Provo and the BYU campus. The med school would focus on third world disease and on developing a more proactive approach to health and longevity (see, e.g., Peter Attia's Medicine 3.0 in Outlive). The medical school would alsof ocus on training future physicians, PAs, and nurses for service in the third world, and would tie in with the Church's missionary department. Imagine the good that could be done if at least a couple billion (or a lot more) were used for those purposes.

I really like that idea. Sign me up for adjunct professor of pathology!

But you better hurry up breaking ground. I won't be working for too much longer.

[Jeff Lebowski]

I am not an expert on this and haven't listened to the podcast, but I saw something on this the other day that basically claimed that the most common thing you found in blue zones was... bad record keeping. And when record keeping improved and ages were more accurately documented, there were far fewer cases of people living to extreme ages than previously claimed.

Sorry to be a killjoy!

https://www.livescience.com/oldest-p...be-so-old.html

Haha. That's funny.

[SteelBlue]

David Beckham doc is pretty good. It's definitely one you can watch with the wife and she won't care that it's about European football. I think the Beckhams may be vampires, because neither has aged much.

It's too bad it was so hard to watch the Premier League and La Liga in the states back then. Watching the doc made me realize how much great soccer history I missed in my 20s.

[Jeff Lebowski]

David Beckham doc is pretty good. It's definitely one you can watch with the wife and she won't care that it's about European football. I think the Beckhams may be vampires, because neither has aged much.

It's too bad it was so hard to watch the Premier League and La Liga in the states back then. Watching the doc made me realize how much great soccer history I missed in my 20s.

We are 3 episodes in. It’s really good.

[PaloAltoCougar]

I was disappointed to read that Killers of the Flower Moon, which I'm still eager to see, is a whopping 3 1/2 hour bladderbuster (thanks, Mick LaSalle, for the description). The daunting prospect of sitting through that made our viewing of The Wonderful Story of Mr. Sugar all the more pleasant. I'll recommend it only to Wes Anderson fans, as the framing, dialogue, and tone are as Wes Andersony as it gets. But at a brisk 35 minutes or so, there's no time to get bored (or use the bathroom) and it was an entertaining experience.

[Donuthole]

I was disappointed to read that Killers of the Flower Moon, which I'm still eager to see, is a whopping 3 1/2 hour bladderbuster (thanks, Mick LaSalle, for the description). The daunting prospect of sitting through that made our viewing of The Wonderful Story of Mr. Sugar all the more pleasant. I'll recommend it only to Wes Anderson fans, as the framing, dialogue, and tone are as Wes Andersony as it gets. But at a brisk 35 minutes or so, there's no time to get bored (or use the bathroom) and it was an entertaining experience.

My favorite work of Roald Dahl, for sure. Sad to hear it's being ruined by Wes Anderson. What a shame.

[Jeff Lebowski]

I was disappointed to read that Killers of the Flower Moon, which I'm still eager to see, is a whopping 3 1/2 hour bladderbuster (thanks, Mick LaSalle, for the description). The daunting prospect of sitting through that made our viewing of The Wonderful Story of Mr. Sugar all the more pleasant. I'll recommend it only to Wes Anderson fans, as the framing, dialogue, and tone are as Wes Andersony as it gets. But at a brisk 35 minutes or so, there's no time to get bored (or use the bathroom) and it was an entertaining experience.

We liked it! That is the first of the four WA shorts we watched. The other three are queued up.