Breaking Bad

[RC Vikings]

So who thrashes the home? Todd and his uncle have no reason to rip it apart. Does Jesse escape or does Walt Jr. go a little crazy. Also it's a pretty sad group when Todd is the smartest person in the group.

[Dwight Schr-ute]

Amen and amen. The first fifteen minutes or so were spectacularly good (and the rest was great). The flashback showed superbly how things once were, and the fade out of Walt, Jesse and the RV to the present, all with the beautiful backdrop, was breathtaking. And the image of Walt falling to the ground after losing family (Hank) and fortune tied in perfectly with the episode's titular poem. Outstanding television tonight.

I was reading these comments in bed last night and they kept me up longer than I wanted them to. When I woke up this morning, I rewatched the beginning to double check and now I can't figure out what version I saw.

When I watched from my DVR last night, I had a Mercedes commercial, black screen with the sounds of gun fire before the screen comes on of the just ended shoot out. Where the hell is this flashback scene that has been reference? I noticed that my DVR version was only like 53 minutes. Did I get a later replay that had been edited for time?!

:Hulksmash:


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[Donuthole]

I was reading these comments in bed last night and they kept me up longer than I wanted them to. When I woke up this morning, I rewatched the beginning to double check and now I can't figure out what version I saw.

When I watched from my DVR last night, I had a Mercedes commercial, black screen with the sounds of gun fire before the screen comes on of the just ended shoot out. Where the hell is this flashback scene that has been reference? I noticed that my DVR version was only like 53 minutes. Did I get a later replay that had been edited for time?!

:Hulksmash:


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Yeah, you missed the entire pre-intro portion (probably 5-7 minutes). Very cleverly done and beautifully shot.

[Dwight Schr-ute]

I felt it was true. Skylar's a smart woman, she knows she was in it as deep as Walt was, so when Walt's talking about her not knowing anything about what he does and is going out of his way to show that it was all him, how could she not realize what he's doing?

But doesn't Walt negate that whole idea when he goes into his whiny Skyler voice, "But it's immoral...It's illegal..." Right there he confirms to the police that Skyler knew what was going on.


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[Coach McGuirk]

But doesn't Walt negate that whole idea when he goes into his whiny Skyler voice, "But it's immoral...It's illegal..." Right there he confirms to the police that Skyler knew what was going on.


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Battered Wife Syndrome.

[old_gregg]

But doesn't Walt negate that whole idea when he goes into his whiny Skyler voice, "But it's immoral...It's illegal..." Right there he confirms to the police that Skyler knew what was going on.


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there's a difference between knowing what's going on and running a car wash to launder the money.

[Art Vandelay]

But doesn't Walt negate that whole idea when he goes into his whiny Skyler voice, "But it's immoral...It's illegal..." Right there he confirms to the police that Skyler knew what was going on.


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Again, Walt is the smartest guy in the room.

She can't deny knowledge ("...and how did you think your husband, the chemistry teacher, could afford to buy a car wash, Mrs. White?"), but allows her the excuse, of being scared for her life, and children. Taking Holly wasn't part of his master plan -I've already stated that was an angry impulse- but it helps with her defense, of the frightened wife. Whether or not it works, it remains to be seen, but there should be no doubt WW was doing it to protect Skyler.

I don't think Walt rehearsing what he was going to say to Skyler -during his 1st cook- before he made the call, was just for the entertainment of seeing Jesse act like the funyun-munching idiot he was back then. It was another subtle bit of foreshadowing. He had thought about, and practiced his lies before dialing the number. Heisenberg is generally brilliant when he has time to plan, Walt is often an idiot when he acts reflexively.

[jay santos]

I don't think Walt rehearsing what he was going to say to Skyler, during his 1st cook, before he made the call, was just for the entertainment of seeing Jesse act like the funyon-munching idiot he was back then. It was another subtle bit of foreshadowing. He had thought about, and practiced his lies before dialing the number. Heisenberg is generally brilliant when he has time to plan, Walt is often an idiot when he acts reflexively.

Mind blown.

[Dwight Schr-ute]

there's a difference between knowing what's going on and running a car wash to launder the money.

True. I have definitely considered that. I guess the phone call bothered me because it's starting to lead down this road where Skyler walks away with "clean" hands. I mean it just seems a little far fetched that her involvement wouldn't surface in a basic investigation of Walt's empire anyway. This woman is married to a huge meth kingpin, and within the last year just so happened to buy a car wash on what would have been a Chemistry teacher's salary.


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[Dwight Schr-ute]

Okay. I can entertain this for a now.


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[Jeff Lebowski]

True. I have definitely considered that. I guess the phone call bothered me because it's starting to lead down this road where Skyler walks away with "clean" hands. I mean it just seems a little far fetched that her involvement wouldn't surface in a basic investigation of Walt's empire anyway. This woman is married to a huge meth kingpin, and within the last year just so happened to buy a car wash on what would have been a Chemistry teacher's salary.

Still, it was the best he could possibly do for her given the circumstances.

[MarkGrace]

This feels right. That lock and chain thing they have set up looks like it's meant for a semi-permanent situation. And Todd is not smart enough to learn how to cook meth by himself. Walt is in New Hampshire for a while (do we know how long?). And somehow finds out what they're doing to Jesse.

Jesse seems like the only thing worth coming back for at this point, so it makes some sense. I just have no idea how he'd find out about Jesse.

[Dwight Schr-ute]

Jesse seems like the only thing worth coming back for at this point, so it makes some sense. I just have no idea how he'd find out about Jesse.

The only thing I can think is if Walt some how discovers that his product is still on the market. Wouldn't Saul have had to set Walt up with the disappear guy? Maybe they maintain some communication (obviously next week's teaser indicates they at least get back in touch).


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[MarkGrace]

I'm still open to the idea that Walt uses the Ricin on himself. Who else could it be for? Lydia is a possibility since if I recall he thought about doing it once. But she's pretty much out of the picture and there's no real motivation there. Anything related to the Todd and his uncle crew is likely going to be a violent gun battle. Obviously it's not going to be Skyler. Maybe Jesse, as Walt feels like he cost him everything. But at this point Walt saving Jesse seems likelier than killing him.

[Jeff Lebowski]

When you saw Walt rolling that boulder through the desert, did anyone else think of Sisyphus?

This guy did:


http://www.theatlantic.com/entertain...e-them/279664/

That is a great observation. When he ran in the house and started telling everyone to pack, I was thinking "Holy cow, he still thinks he can pull this off." I think the increasing frequency of the Walt/Heisenberg flip-flopping at the end is appropriate. It is a little jarring in a way, but a smart guy doing incredibly stupid things is the central storyline to the series. And it doesn't feel like a stretch at all. This happens all the time in life.

I don't think Walt rehearsing what he was going to say to Skyler -during his 1st cook- before he made the call, was just for the entertainment of seeing Jesse act like the funyun-munching idiot he was back then. It was another subtle bit of foreshadowing. He had thought about, and practiced his lies before dialing the number. Heisenberg is generally brilliant when he has time to plan, Walt is often an idiot when he acts reflexively.

Great catch, Art. Incredible how much they can weave into a single episode.

That was the single most painful hour of television that I've ever seen.

Indeed. But I love the integrity of this show. Harsh and unrelenting but completely real and believable. You want to see what the opposite looks like, go watch the ending of the Dexter series.