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  • Originally posted by Art Vandelay View Post
    Now I'm more confused. I tried to rip a DVD (which I own, not trying to be illegal here), but it can't read it. I go to the handbrake website and read this:


    So if HB doesn't rip all DVDs, but VLC will read most formats. So do I need another ripping program and then can just bypass HB and watch the movies with VLC.:confused2:
    Handbrake won't get past the copy protection on all DVDs. It will with a lot of them, but not all of them. There are some programs out there that will remove the copy protection for you, in which case you are correct you would by pass Handbrake all together.

    And while technically you do own the DVD, what you are doing could be considered illegal. At least if the movie industry had their way it would be.

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    • Originally posted by Art Vandelay View Post
      So if HB doesn't rip all DVDs, but VLC will read most formats. So do I need another ripping program and then can just bypass HB and watch the movies with VLC.:confused2:
      DVDFAB will do all of that in one package (strip DRM, rip the DVD and convert it into a number of different formats, including apple-friendly ones). DVDFAB is not cheap however. And since its mainly used to do illegal things, many people have decided that it makes sense to illegally download DVDFAB itself.
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      • Originally posted by Sizzle View Post
        Handbrake won't get past the copy protection on all DVDs. It will with a lot of them, but not all of them. There are some programs out there that will remove the copy protection for you, in which case you are correct you would by pass Handbrake all together.

        And while technically you do own the DVD, what you are doing could be considered illegal. At least if the movie industry had their way it would be.
        It could? I thought this falls under fair use:

        Courts have previously found that a use was fair where the use of the copyrighted work was socially beneficial. In particular, U.S. courts have recognized the following fair uses: criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, research and parodies.

        In addition, in 1984 the Supreme Court held that time-shifting (for example, private, non-commercial home taping of television programs with a VCR to permit later viewing) is fair use. (Sony Corporation of America v. Universal City Studios, 464 U.S. 417 (1984, S.C.)

        Although the legal basis is not completely settled, many lawyers believe that the following (and many other uses) are also fair uses:

        Space-shifting or format-shifting - that is, taking content you own in one format and putting it into another format, for personal, non-commercial use. For instance, "ripping" an audio CD (that is, making an MP3-format version of an audio CD that you already own) is considered fair use by many lawyers, based on the 1984 Betamax decision and the 1999 Rio MP3 player decision (RIAA v. Diamond Multimedia, 180 F. 3d 1072, 1079, 9th Circ. 1999.)
        Making a personal back-up copy of content you own - for instance, burning a copy of an audio CD you own.
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        • Originally posted by Sizzle View Post
          Handbrake won't get past the copy protection on all DVDs. It will with a lot of them, but not all of them. There are some programs out there that will remove the copy protection for you, in which case you are correct you would by pass Handbrake all together.
          I found that handbrake works on most all DVDs. For ones that do give me trouble I have used MacTheRipper to remove the copy protection. For the record, I have not tried Debbie Does Dallas so AV is on his own with that one.
          "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
          "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
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          • Originally posted by falafel View Post
            DVDFAB will do all of that in one package (strip DRM, rip the DVD and convert it into a number of different formats, including apple-friendly ones). DVDFAB is not cheap however. And since its mainly used to do illegal things, many people have decided that it makes sense to illegally download DVDFAB itself.
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            • Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
              It could? I thought this falls under fair use:
              Originally posted by Sizzle View Post

              And while technically you do own the DVD, what you are doing could be considered illegal. At least if the movie industry had their way it would be.

              ...

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              • Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
                It could? I thought this falls under fair use:
                In my eyes, it isn't illegal, not should it be. But even in the information you cited, it isn't cut and dry:

                Space-shifting or format-shifting - that is, taking content you own in one format and putting it into another format, for personal, non-commercial use. For instance, "ripping" an audio CD (that is, making an MP3-format version of an audio CD that you already own) is considered fair use by many lawyers, based on the 1984 Betamax decision and the 1999 Rio MP3 player decision (RIAA v. Diamond Multimedia, 180 F. 3d 1072, 1079, 9th Circ. 1999.)
                Making a personal back-up copy of content you own - for instance, burning a copy of an audio CD you own.
                It is "considered" fair use by many (but apparently not all?) lawyers. That statement is far from definitive.

                The way I view it, you bought the DVD, you should be able to use it however you want in your home for non-commercial use. But I know the movie industry has issues with the content being turned digital because of the ease of which it can spread. I doubt you would get prosecuted if you ripped a DVD that you owned and used for your own personal use.

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                • Originally posted by Sizzle View Post
                  It is "considered" fair use by many (but apparently not all?) lawyers. That statement is far from definitive.
                  Those damn lawyers will never give you a straight answer and are always trying to cover their ass(ets).
                  "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                  "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
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                  GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                  • Originally posted by falafel View Post
                    DVDFAB is not cheap however. .
                    Wow. No kidding, it costs 100 bones !

                    Originally posted by CJF View Post
                    This what I use. Works great and is very easy.
                    Can you point me to a Filipino knock-off version for a few less dollars?

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                    • Originally posted by Art Vandelay View Post
                      Wow. No kidding, it costs 100 bones !

                      Can you point me to a Filipino knock-off version for a few less dollars?
                      Right on! Doing illegal things...the illegal way!

                      I'm all for a freeware version that will do these things. I will try handbrake first and see if it gives me any mumbo jumbo. This isn't all that critical since I dont often use my device to watch movies on the go. So no way Im dropping a c-note for the ability to do it.
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                      • Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                        Right on! Doing illegal things...the illegal way!

                        I'm all for a freeware version that will do these things. I will try handbrake first and see if it gives me any mumbo jumbo. This isn't all that critical since I dont often use my device to watch movies on the go. So no way Im dropping a c-note for the ability to do it.

                        Handbrake will burn most. It has a problem with Disney movies mostly and one other brand, but I would say I have a 90% success rate with handbrake.

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                        • Originally posted by Coach McGuirk View Post
                          Handbrake will burn most. It has a problem with Disney movies mostly and one other brand, but I would say I have a 90% success rate with handbrake.
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                          • Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                            Right on! Doing illegal things...the illegal way!

                            I'm all for a freeware version that will do these things. I will try handbrake first and see if it gives me any mumbo jumbo. This isn't all that critical since I dont often use my device to watch movies on the go. So no way Im dropping a c-note for the ability to do it.
                            I'm always terrified of viruses and malware with any download. I know everyone uses torrents, but I've never even tried to use one. Just what I need is to call in a computer tech to fix my comptuer and he finds all kinds of hidden porn or viruses from trying to save a couple dollars. Not worth it.

                            I do agree that $100 for my needs is crazy.

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                            • Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                              Vivid?

                              Don't know, I will try that when I get home. But really, I want to say it was whichever studio release Up in the Air.

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                              • Another dumb question:

                                Would DVDFAB work to make copies of my kid's X-box discs? The thing might actually be worth the cost if that is the case. We already have a scratched WWE 2011 disc, which I don't mind because I hate seeing my boys trying to reinact the game. However, I'm sure other discs will follow the soon follow.

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