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  • The “win by 9” game was Stanford in 2003. BYU was up 2 with the ball and under 4ish minutes to go.

    http://sltrib.cougarstats.com/games....ls&game_id=112
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    • 2003 was the low point for crowton and rock bottom for BYU football in the modern era. Gary had the offense turning a corner in 2004 and had recruited some good talent but the progress was too slow and there was obviously some disturbing high profile HC issues. 2017 appears to be worse so far. 265 ypg vs 313 in 2003. 12.1 ppg vs 16.3 in 2003. On pace for 27 turnovers (there were 39!! In 2003).

      I think it's not debatable that the schedule so far this year has been much more difficult than 2003. But that argument only rings true if we play reasonably well against the awful teams, which we haven't. The point is I don't know if 2017 or 2003 is the post ww2 bottom for BYU. We will find out soon.

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      • Just stop and embrace the horror. It will feel so much better, I promise. I decided to take HFN’s advice to heart. I’d rather discuss my favorite credit card or watch a random you tube video than ignore each of you completely.

        He didn’t say it would be easy, he just said it would be weird.
        "Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault

        "Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors

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        • Originally posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
          The “win by 9” game was Stanford in 2003. BYU was up 2 with the ball and under 4ish minutes to go.

          http://sltrib.cougarstats.com/games....ls&game_id=112
          Crowton's comment was stupid but his decision to throw wasn't. The int happened with 4:19 left in the game. Too long to try and sit on the ball.
          Dyslexics are teople poo...

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          • Originally posted by Pelado View Post
            Wasn't that against Stanford?
            Originally posted by Flystripper View Post
            That is my memory as well.
            You guys are probably right. I've tried my best to put the events of the Crowton years out of my mind...

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            • Originally posted by Topper View Post
              Players of yesteryear drank andhad sex to handle the stress.
              Yeah, I agree with Topper: same old, same old.

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              • Does anyone think that Ty Detmer should not be fired? Seems obvious to me, but then I haven't watched his fine work up close, outside of the Utah game.

                It seems that the colleges of Utah went 0-2 in turning over their offenses to high school coaches. :sad:

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                • too early to fire detmer. I want to see what he can do with a QB who's not a head case before I'd consider firing him.
                  I'm like LeBron James.
                  -mpfunk

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                  • Originally posted by smokymountainrain View Post
                    too early to fire detmer. I want to see what he can do with a QB who's not a head case before I'd consider firing him.
                    Do you think it is a coincidence that both Hill and mangum looked worse under detmer than Anae?

                    and no coordinator not named ty detmer would survive this season at byu.
                    Last edited by Maximus; 10-24-2017, 09:11 AM.

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                    • Originally posted by Applejack View Post
                      Does anyone think that Ty Detmer should not be fired? Seems obvious to me, but then I haven't watched his fine work up close, outside of the Utah game.

                      It seems that the colleges of Utah went 0-2 in turning over their offenses to high school coaches. :sad:
                      I do not think he should be fired.

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                      • Originally posted by Maximus View Post
                        Do you think it is a coincidence that both Hill and mangum looked worse under detmer than Anae?

                        and no coordinator not named ty detmer would survive this season at byu.
                        In his second year Anae somehow survived a 2-10 record in 2016 at UVA.

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                        • Originally posted by Shaka View Post
                          In his second year Anae somehow survived a 2-10 record in 2016 at UVA.
                          you mean first year?

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                          • Originally posted by Applejack View Post
                            Does anyone think that Ty Detmer should not be fired? Seems obvious to me, but then I haven't watched his fine work up close, outside of the Utah game.

                            It seems that the colleges of Utah went 0-2 in turning over their offenses to high school coaches. :sad:
                            I do not. There's so much wrong with the team right now that I can't say it's Detmer.
                            τὸν ἥλιον ἀνατέλλοντα πλείονες ἢ δυόμενον προσκυνοῦσιν

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                            • Originally posted by Applejack View Post
                              Does anyone think that Ty Detmer should not be fired? Seems obvious to me, but then I haven't watched his fine work up close, outside of the Utah game.

                              It seems that the colleges of Utah went 0-2 in turning over their offenses to high school coaches. :sad:
                              I've made my position on this matter quite clear.

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                              • Originally posted by Maximus View Post
                                you mean first year?
                                Whichever. The point is sometimes you have a crapper year. It doesn't have to be the end of the world.

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