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  • Jeff Lebowski
    Corporate lackey for Jesus
    • Nov 2008
    • 69617

    #181
    Originally posted by Shaka View Post
    Whichever. The point is sometimes you have a crapper year. It doesn't have to be the end of the world.
    Let's see: worst string of losses in decades, recruits jumping ship, multiple players being arrested, no team discipline... Yeah, just a blip folks. No big deal.

    One more player arrested and we need to start a Fire Kalani thread. This program is out of control.
    "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
    "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
    "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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    • Maximus
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 6013

      #182
      Originally posted by Shaka View Post
      Whichever. The point is sometimes you have a crapper year. It doesn't have to be the end of the world.
      1. How bad does the team need to be to convince you change is needed in coaching?

      2. What, exactly, about the performance of the offense gives you any hope Detmer is capable of coaching a good to great college offense?

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      • Shaka
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2008
        • 10449

        #183
        Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
        Let's see: worst string of losses in decades, recruits jumping ship, multiple players being arrested, no team discipline... Yeah, just a blip folks. No big deal.

        One more player arrested and we need to start a Fire Kalani thread. This program is out of control.
        It's a big deal but there are also plenty of decent reasons why it's happening. They will be given the opportunity to right the ship.

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        • Applejack
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2012
          • 3812

          #184
          Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
          Let's see: worst string of losses in decades, recruits jumping ship, multiple players being arrested, no team discipline... Yeah, just a blip folks. No big deal.

          One more player arrested and we need to start a Fire Kalani thread. This program is out of control.
          We'll take Kalani back when you are done, thank you.

          The reunion with Francis Bernard and Ula will bring tears to the eyes of grown men.

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          • Shaka
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2008
            • 10449

            #185
            Originally posted by Maximus View Post
            1. How bad does the team need to be to convince you change is needed in coaching?

            2. What, exactly, about the performance of the offense gives you any hope Detmer is capable of coaching a good to great college offense?
            1. If there isn't improvement next year then you start thinking about it.

            2. Detmer's ability to coach the offense is directly related to our injury situation and our lack of talent and depth. Those issues need to be addressed before I'm going to toss him out with the bathwater.

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            • Maximus
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 6013

              #186
              Originally posted by Shaka View Post
              1. If there isn't improvement next year then you start thinking about it.

              2. Detmer's ability to coach the offense is directly related to our injury situation and our lack of talent and depth. Those issues need to be addressed before I'm going to toss him out with the bathwater.
              Do you really think our talent level is equivalent to one of the worst teams in the nation? We have enough talent and depth to beat terrible USU and ECU teams.

              Anyways, I get our talent needs to improve to be a good to great team. However, our performance is not nearly up to our talent level this year.

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              • Shaka
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2008
                • 10449

                #187
                Originally posted by Maximus View Post
                Do you really think our talent level is equivalent to one of the worst teams in the nation? We have enough talent and depth to beat terrible USU and ECU teams.

                Anyways, I get our talent needs to improve to be a good to great team. However, our performance is not nearly up to our talent level this year.
                Our talent level is in the crapper. Couple that with our injuries and you have our current situation. I have news for you, it might be a long time before you see another ten win season. There are other factors that have nothing to do with the coaches or AD.

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                • RC Vikings
                  Known Heterosexual
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 8789

                  #188
                  Right now I would bet money on Detmer keeping his job longer than Sitake does. Fire them or keep them, BYU is in for a long rebuild.

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                  • BYUMizzou
                    Junior Member
                    • Mar 2012
                    • 400

                    #189
                    After today, I'd agree with this. BYU/the Church can tolerate bad teams and losing games. After the Crowton experiment, they won't tolerate a coach who can't control his team.

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                    • MartyFunkhouser
                      Disciple of RNGesus
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 18732

                      #190
                      I don't think Detmer should be fired. I'd support him being named the head coach at BYU.
                      As I lead this army, make room for mistakes and depression
                      --Kendrick Lamar

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                      • YOhio
                        Hipster Mode
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 26165

                        #191
                        Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                        Let's see: worst string of losses in decades, recruits jumping ship, multiple players being arrested, no team discipline... Yeah, just a blip folks. No big deal.

                        One more player arrested and we need to start a Fire Kalani thread. This program is out of control.
                        lol. A college student is caught with marijuana. Someone get JL a fainting couch.

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                        • MartyFunkhouser
                          Disciple of RNGesus
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 18732

                          #192
                          Originally posted by YOhio View Post
                          lol. A college student is caught with marijuana. Someone get JL a fainting couch.
                          I know really. How is anyone thinking this is a big deal. I am laughing that he was carrying the marijuana on a frisbee.
                          As I lead this army, make room for mistakes and depression
                          --Kendrick Lamar

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                          • YOhio
                            Hipster Mode
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 26165

                            #193
                            Originally posted by mpfunk View Post
                            I know really. How is anyone thinking this is a big deal. I am laughing that he was carrying the marijuana on a frisbee.
                            Would have been very impressive if it was an aerobie.

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                            • falafel
                              loves to talk on things
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 37933

                              #194
                              Originally posted by Applejack View Post
                              We'll take Kalani back when you are done, thank you.

                              The reunion with Francis Bernard and Ula will bring tears to the eyes of grown men.
                              More likely that's the Visine.

                              Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

                              Dig your own grave, and save!

                              "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

                              "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

                              GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                              • Jeff Lebowski
                                Corporate lackey for Jesus
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 69617

                                #195
                                Originally posted by YOhio View Post
                                lol. A college student is caught with marijuana. Someone get JL a fainting couch.
                                Originally posted by mpfunk View Post
                                I know really. How is anyone thinking this is a big deal. I am laughing that he was carrying the marijuana on a frisbee.
                                Haha. Look at you two. Cute.

                                YO, this one thing in isolation is not that big of a deal. Some team discipline and you move on. But if you don't think we have major issues going on right now in the program you are smoking something yourself.
                                "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                                "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                                "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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