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  • MartyFunkhouser
    Disciple of RNGesus
    • Nov 2008
    • 18738

    #1351
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    Last edited by MartyFunkhouser; 09-13-2016, 05:00 PM.
    As I lead this army, make room for mistakes and depression
    --Kendrick Lamar

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    • cougjunkie
      *Banned*
      • Nov 2008
      • 23223

      #1352
      Originally posted by mpfunk View Post
      Again, the answer is in the middle here. Utah's offense sucks even with Booker. Utah's offense is better with Booker. I'm also sure as hell not going to blame that debacle for 3 quarters on injuries though. We need to finally fix this damn offense. We don't need a great offense. We don't need a good offense. With our defense, all we need is a mediocre offense. That is all I'm asking for, mediocre offense. It isn't took much to ask.

      Hell, at this point, I would settle for below average.
      You need a qb. Whit has yet to recruit a good qb. The skill positions you can find talent in the jc ranks. Utah needs to find a quarterback.

      Every year I hear that you finally found one, whether it be, Tyler Shreve, Travis Wilson (elite 11!), Connor Manning, Brandon Cox (black guys always get ute fans excited), Donovan Isom (see Brandon Cox), and now this kid Tyler Huntley (black and from Florida, double whammy!).
      *Banned*

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      • Nakoma
        Junior Member
        • Sep 2013
        • 571

        #1353
        Originally posted by smokymountainrain View Post
        I keep hearing that, but Whittingham seemed genuinely pissed after the game that Utah couldn't put any more points on the board after scoring 35 in the first quarter. If they took their foot off the pedal, it seems he would have acted like things pretty much went according to plan.
        In both the halftime and post-game interviews, Whittingham expressed his frustration with Utah's inability to move the ball and score. There was nothing in his comments to suggest they were on cruise control for the rest of the game.

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        • imanihonjin
          Junior Member
          • Jun 2013
          • 3772

          #1354
          Originally posted by mpfunk View Post
          Oh please, this is absolutely ridiculous. Of course Utah wanted a blowout, but what Utah did after being up 35-0 to BYU doesn't even begin to resemble the Oregon game. Yes, there was a concerted effort to throttle things down and go conservative.

          BYU has a better defense than Oregon. Utah isn't going to take the risks against BYU that they did against Oregon and it showed in the play calling. Utah was still throwing out trick plays, misdirection, and pretty much everything in the playbook against Oregon.

          Also, a 35 point lead is pretty damn safe against BYU. The same cannot be said about Oregon. Oregon's offense is much better than BYU.
          yeah a reverse, where I think they may have been contemplating a pass out of, a fake punt and going for it twice on 4th certainly weren't evidence to help plead your case.

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          • cougjunkie
            *Banned*
            • Nov 2008
            • 23223

            #1355
            Originally posted by mpfunk View Post
            Oh please, this is absolutely ridiculous. Of course Utah wanted a blowout, but what Utah did after being up 35-0 to BYU doesn't even begin to resemble the Oregon game. Yes, there was a concerted effort to throttle things down and go conservative.

            BYU has a better defense than Oregon. Utah isn't going to take the risks against BYU that they did against Oregon and it showed in the play calling. Utah was still throwing out trick plays, misdirection, and pretty much everything in the playbook against Oregon.

            Also, a 35 point lead is pretty damn safe against BYU. The same cannot be said about Oregon. Oregon's offense is much better than BYU.
            Utah ran a double reverse, a fake punt, several screens and misdirection against BYU. Of course they also ran the read-option 45 times.
            *Banned*

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            • cougjunkie
              *Banned*
              • Nov 2008
              • 23223

              #1356
              Originally posted by imanihonjin View Post
              yeah a reverse, where I think they may have been contemplating a pass out of, a fake punt and going for it twice on 4th certainly weren't evidence to help plead your case.
              Whit was pissed, he set up another coordinator move this off season.
              *Banned*

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              • Sullyute
                a day late/a dollar short
                • Jul 2010
                • 3308

                #1357
                Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
                You need a qb. Whit has yet to recruit a good qb. The skill positions you can find talent in the jc ranks. Utah needs to find a quarterback.
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                • MartyFunkhouser
                  Disciple of RNGesus
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 18738

                  #1358
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                  Last edited by MartyFunkhouser; 09-13-2016, 05:00 PM.
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                  • kccougar
                    9262
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 7020

                    #1359
                    Originally posted by mpfunk View Post
                    The QB recruiting is the biggest of many problems. You might want to look at your own fan base with the black guys always get ___ fans excited comment. I'm not really disagreeing, but I don't think that is a criticism that a BYU fan should be making.

                    I have no faith in Williams or Huntley because they were both recruited by the Utes. I hope one of them works out, but you are right we keep hearing that new recruit is different and finally the answer and it never pans out.

                    We don't need a good QB, we need a mediocre one and we are fine. Hell, I'll again settle for below average.
                    Travis Wilson is below average.
                    "It's devastating, because we lost to a team that's not even in the Pac-12. To lose to Utah State is horrible." - John White IV

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                    • falafel
                      loves to talk on things
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 37950

                      #1360
                      Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View Post
                      You saying that I talk out of my ass is laughable.
                      This reply seems like the equivalent of "nuh-uh!"
                      Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

                      Dig your own grave, and save!

                      "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

                      "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

                      GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                      • cougjunkie
                        *Banned*
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 23223

                        #1361
                        Originally posted by mpfunk View Post
                        The QB recruiting is the biggest of many problems. You might want to look at your own fan base with the black guys always get ___ fans excited comment. I'm not really disagreeing, but I don't think that is a criticism that a BYU fan should be making.

                        I have no faith in Williams or Huntley because they were both recruited by the Utes. I hope one of them works out, but you are right we keep hearing that new recruit is different and finally the answer and it never pans out.

                        We don't need a good QB, we need a mediocre one and we are fine. Hell, I'll again settle for below average.
                        Its amazing that a team can go from the #1 pick in the draft at QB, throw a back up in to the NFL like Ratliff, have success with a 17 year old Brian Johnson. After that it was all down hill.

                        Was BJ an Urban recruit or Whit? Was he in the last class right as urban left?
                        *Banned*

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                        • MartyFunkhouser
                          Disciple of RNGesus
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 18738

                          #1362
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                          Last edited by MartyFunkhouser; 09-13-2016, 04:56 PM.
                          As I lead this army, make room for mistakes and depression
                          --Kendrick Lamar

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                          • The_Douger
                            Athletic Supporter
                            • Jun 2012
                            • 5413

                            #1363
                            Originally posted by mpfunk View Post
                            Again, the answer is in the middle here. Utah's offense sucks even with Booker. Utah's offense is better with Booker. I'm also sure as hell not going to blame that debacle for 3 quarters on injuries though. We need to finally fix this damn offense. We don't need a great offense. We don't need a good offense. With our defense, all we need is a mediocre offense. That is all I'm asking for, mediocre offense. It isn't took much to ask.

                            Hell, at this point, I would settle for below average.
                            You can't have that when he puts every single athlete on the other side of the ball.
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                            • Jeff Lebowski
                              Corporate lackey for Jesus
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 69632

                              #1364
                              Originally posted by The_Douger View Post
                              You can't have that when he puts every single athlete on the other side of the ball.
                              Defense wins games. Not a bad strategy in general.
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                              • MartyFunkhouser
                                Disciple of RNGesus
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 18738

                                #1365
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                                Last edited by MartyFunkhouser; 09-13-2016, 04:57 PM.
                                As I lead this army, make room for mistakes and depression
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