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  • All-American
    Right, as Usual
    • Nov 2008
    • 15657

    #301
    Originally posted by Brian View Post
    From Monty:
    Multiple sources have confirmed to me that Tom Holmoe stated his support for Bronco in front of the entire team in a meeting this week #BYU

    See, my threat to fast has already started the creation of a tender mercy.

    First Sunday in December: Highest bidder gets to name the subject of my fast.
    So bronco really is on the hotseat.
    τὸν ἥλιον ἀνατέλλοντα πλείονες ἢ δυόμενον προσκυνοῦσιν

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    • Topper
      Pre-Historic Man
      • Nov 2011
      • 11764

      #302
      Maybe already discussed, but http://www.deseretnews.com/article/8...-football.html

      This line is why Bronco stays:
      Problem is, it doesn't look like the football program has a coach like Rose waiting in the wings.
      "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

      Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.

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      • Crockett
        Junior Member
        • Sep 2013
        • 850

        #303
        Originally posted by Topper View Post
        Maybe already discussed, but http://www.deseretnews.com/article/8...-football.html

        This line is why Bronco stays:
        Tom Holmoe is not doing his job if he doesn't already have a continuously updated list of potential head coach targets for replacing Mendenhall.

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        • Eddie
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2009
          • 8098

          #304
          Originally posted by Crockett View Post
          Tom Holmoe is not doing his job if he doesn't already have a continuously updated list of potential head coach targets for replacing Mendenhall.
          I don't doubt that he has a list. The question is how many of those on the list are a)willing to accept the position and b)better than Bronco's been.

          It is one thing for Bronco to leave and then you have to start working your way down your list. It is something different completely to send him packing.

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          • Topper
            Pre-Historic Man
            • Nov 2011
            • 11764

            #305
            Originally posted by Eddie View Post
            I don't doubt that he has a list. The question is how many of those on the list are a)willing to accept the position and b)better than Bronco's been.

            It is one thing for Bronco to leave and then you have to start working your way down your list. It is something different completely to send him packing.
            As the article's author noted, I don't see a Coach Rose in waiting. We don't have better options than Bronco for the time being.
            "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

            Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.

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            • byu71
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2008
              • 22070

              #306
              Originally posted by Topper View Post
              As the article's author noted, I don't see a Coach Rose in waiting. We don't have better options than Bronco for the time being.
              Totally agree. As I have said before I also think Bronco has had an attitude change. I haven't heard all the religious inuendo's like in the past. I have seen him recruit more JC's and non-LDS people. I think he has gotten a message than winning is very important. While mouthing it in the past, not so sure he realized how important.

              Unless he has enough saved up and wants to go surfing, I think FB has climbed his priority list. Of course all this won't mean a heck of a lot if there isn't a bit of an attitude shift in the higher up ranks and I mean beyond the admin.

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              • The_Douger
                Athletic Supporter
                • Jun 2012
                • 5413

                #307
                Originally posted by Topper View Post
                As the article's author noted, I don't see a Coach Rose in waiting. We don't have better options than Bronco for the time being.
                Why do we have to have a coach Rose in waiting?

                Coaches get fired sometimes. It sounds like these guys have completely lost the team. I'll be surprised if we're bowl eligible this year. We're playing really poorly right now.

                It's not like Bronco was some hot commodity in the coaching world when we hired him. We're 20-14 the last 3 seasons. It's not good enough. I doubt they make a change, but I've kind of just come to expect this stuff after Bronco started off really well.
                Will donate kidney for B12 membership.

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                • TripletDaddy
                  sweet triple
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 58186

                  #308
                  Why are Tom and the Boys getting a free pass? It may be time for a switch at AD, as well. This is becoming more and more common. Traditional football powerhouses like USC, Texas, Michigan, and BYU have either already done it or are considering it.
                  Fitter. Happier. More Productive.

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                  • originalsocal
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 1632

                    #309
                    Originally posted by Topper View Post
                    As the article's author noted, I don't see a Coach Rose in waiting. We don't have better options than Bronco for the time being.
                    I have to say Rose was a risk coming in. He had experience coaching at Dixie and as an assistant to Cleveland. I dare say any coach we bring, if do in fact make a change, will be a risk.

                    I think risks are good if you do your homework. I trust Holmoe to do the job if needed.

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                    • byu71
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 22070

                      #310
                      Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                      Why are Tom and the Boys getting a free pass? It may be time for a switch at AD, as well. This is becoming more and more common. Traditional football powerhouses like USC, Texas, Michigan, and BYU have either already done it or are considering it.
                      My guess is because Tom and for that matter Bronco are doing their jobs per their job descriptions. Bronco's problem is that as the coach, he becomes the focal point of the fans wrath.

                      The unique situation that is BYU means it gets more difficult to criticize each step up the management level above Bronco.

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                      • RC Vikings
                        Known Heterosexual
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 8789

                        #311
                        Originally posted by byu71 View Post
                        My guess is because Tom and for that matter Bronco are doing their jobs per their job descriptions. Bronco's problem is that as the coach, he becomes the focal point of the fans wrath.

                        The unique situation that is BYU means it gets more difficult to criticize each step up the management level above Bronco.
                        I think you're right, until the football program starts losing money because of putting out a poor product and losing support it's not going to change. I would hate to try and field a team with the constraints they put on them.

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                        • byu71
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 22070

                          #312
                          Originally posted by RC Vikings View Post
                          I think you're right, until the football program starts losing money because of putting out a poor product and losing support it's not going to change. I would hate to try and field a team with the constraints they put on them.
                          Yea, it would be like in the old days of ward basketball and your Bishop said only active LDS young men could play on the team. You would get killed by the ward with non active boys and 2 non members on the team.

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                          • HuskyFreeNorthwest
                            Time to camp
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 26082

                            #313
                            Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                            Why are Tom and the Boys getting a free pass? It may be time for a switch at AD, as well. This is becoming more and more common. Traditional football powerhouses like USC, Texas, Michigan, and BYU have either already done it or are considering it.
                            I read your first sentence and thought you meant Tom Monson and the Q12, my heart ached as I saw you letting go of the iron rod and getting lost in the fog like Niku.
                            Get confident, stupid
                            -landpoke

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                            • Crockett
                              Junior Member
                              • Sep 2013
                              • 850

                              #314
                              Originally posted by Topper View Post
                              As the article's author noted, I don't see a Coach Rose in waiting.
                              Another indictment of Bronco as head coach.

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                              • The_Douger
                                Athletic Supporter
                                • Jun 2012
                                • 5413

                                #315
                                Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                                Why are Tom and the Boys getting a free pass? It may be time for a switch at AD, as well. This is becoming more and more common. Traditional football powerhouses like USC, Texas, Michigan, and BYU have either already done it or are considering it.
                                I often feel Tom doesn't have the same powers or responsibilities as ADs at other universities.
                                Will donate kidney for B12 membership.

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