Red Dead Redemption: BYU vs. Utah 2013

[scottie]

LOL at the guy at the top of the tunnel yelling in their faces.

[UVACoug]

So BYU has a game scoring 16 points against a bad Virginia and another scoring 13 points against a Utah defense that has shown can be exploited for big points. The Texas game appears to be more of an aberration - they were a mess and fired the DC two days after the game. I'm not calling for Ammon Olsen, but I think it's fair for people to start bringing it up. Hill came into the game completing a third of his passes and went 18-48 in the game. That is off-the-charts bad. You can't have that. For my part, Hill is good enough and has enough big play capability on the ground (still ran for 100 yards last night) that I think you stay with him for now, but it's pretty disconcerting to watch him consistently over throw guys, throw behind guys, throw to Thornton, throw balls into the ground and be absolutely atrocious when throwing on the run.

I agree with everything you said. I will say, though, that while the point production was just as bad as the Virginia game, we did move the ball a lot better. Our red zone offense was atrocious (our red zone defense wasn't that great last night either), but at least we got to the red zone. Silver lining, perhaps, but I see it as a sign of improvement.


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[The_Douger]

I agree with everything you said. I will say, though, that while the point production was just as bad as the Virginia game, we did move the ball a lot better. Our red zone offense was atrocious (our red zone defense wasn't that great last night either), but at least we got to the red zone. Silver lining, perhaps, but I see it as a sign of improvement.


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They've averaged 50 points per game or something like that. We held them to 20. It should have been enough to win. That defense hasn't stopped anyone this year.

[UVACoug]

Meh...I don't think max was great at checking down either. He was just accurate enough to get away with it.


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I think checking down is a skill that very few college QBs have ... especially sophomore QBs starting for the first time. It's the accuracy that is the biggest problem right now.

[UVACoug]

Matthews grabbed the defender and pulled him towards him. Not way you call that.

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No he didn't.

[UVACoug]

The game should have been over long before then. That unsportsmanlike conduct call on Rowe was a travesty, after the Utes had them beat fair and square on the field. Good thing the Utes and their fans are so unsportsmanlike, I guess, or BYU wouldn't get so many chances to win the last two years. I'm very careful about these kinds of judgments, but I wonder if the call would have happened if Rowe were white.

LOL. You've got some serious issues.

[chrisrenrut]

The game should have been over long before then. That unsportsmanlike conduct call on Rowe was a travesty, after the Utes had them beat fair and square on the field. Good thing the Utes and their fans are so unsportsmanlike, I guess, or BYU wouldn't get so many chances to win the last two years. I'm very careful about these kinds of judgments, but I wonder if the call would have happened if Rowe were white.

You are an embarrassment to Ute fans.

[Vic Vega]

He was at 50% last year and it's not like USU's defense is a bunch of slouches.

I just don't know why he's regressed.

I just looked it up, and a 50% completion percentage would give him the 114th best completion percentage this year.

[The_Douger]

I just looked it up, and a 50% completion percentage would give him the 114th best completion percentage this year.

And it's funny, because at this point we'd be thrilled with that.

[UVACoug]

It could just be that he doesn't fit what they're trying to do. He was zipping it around in warmups. I think the GHGF is fine, but I think you can do that with a more traditional running game and pro style passer.

I can't stand watching a BYU QB complete under 40% of the passes. It's just ridiculous. It makes Riley Nelson look decent.

I think it has a lot more to do with Taysom's upside potential. If he can learn to pass, our offense is going to be great his Junior and Senior year. The question is whether he can learn to pass. If you think he can, then I think you let him work through it. We've seen what benching a QB can do to his head. I think the question right now is who gives BYU the best chance of winning over the next three years. I'm not nearly as smart as the coaches, but I think you have to stick with Taysom for now. From what I have heard from people that are much smarter than me, a lot of his problem is with his footwork. That seems like it is something that can be learned. I hope Jason Beck can teach it, but I have to be honest and say I am a little concerned about that right now. If he can't teach Taysom, though ... are we going to expect Ammon to be any better?

[USUC]

And it's funny, because at this point we'd be thrilled with that.

I think we would still be shitting our pants.

[Pelado]

No he didn't.

Sure he did, but only after the defender held him and pushed him.

Not that it would have mattered. We would have gotten 15 yards and an untimed final play.

At least the third row of endzone seating could have had another chance to catch a ball.

[USUC]

"@gregwrubell: BYU is 23rd in FBS yards/game, but 93rd in yards/play, as BYU averages 95.7 plays/game (most in FBS)."

"@gregwrubell: Through four weeks of play (BYU has played three games), BYU remains 123rd (out of 123 teams) in pass efficiency, at 73.6. Last year = 123.4"

"@gregwrubell: BYU has five red zone TDs in 14 appearances; that 35.7% TD success rate is in the bottom ten nationally."

"@gregwrubell: OC Anae's strengths in first BYU stint (pass game, red zone scoring, 3rd down conversion) are currently glaring areas of weakness/concern."

I think this is the closest we will see of Wrubell criticizing the coaching staff.

[UVACoug]

And just to make the dire seem especially bleak, let's try counting to six.

Remaining nine games, listed in order of what I suspect are the most likely wins to least likely:

Idaho State (by strictest definition, they do technically play football).
Middle Tennessee State (never heard of them. Hope that means something)
Georgia Tech (home game; they run an offense we are peculiarly designed to stop)
Nevada (don't know how good they are, to be honest)
Houston (generally, a decent C-USA team; road game)
Boise State (a down year for them, but they are still solid, and we haven't beaten them yet)
Utah State (played well against Utah, and it's at Logan)
Notre Dame (at South Bend; they look solid)
Wisconsin (at Camp Randall; one of the better big ten teams)

Which of these five teams will we beat?

Our defense will keep us in all of them, and none of them know how to game plan against us defensively as well as Whit and Sataki. I think we have a shot at beating all of them. Will we? No ... of course not. I think we are easily bowl eligible though, which is not something to blink at with this schedule.


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[Non Sequitur]

I think it has a lot more to do with Taysom's upside potential. If he can learn to pass, our offense is going to be great his Junior and Senior year. The question is whether he can learn to pass. If you think he can, then I think you let him work through it. We've seen what benching a QB can do to his head. I think the question right now is who gives BYU the best chance of winning over the next three years. I'm not nearly as smart as the coaches, but I think you have to stick with Taysom for now. From what I have heard from people that are much smarter than me, a lot of his problem is with his footwork. That seems like it is something that can be learned. I hope Jason Beck can teach it, but I have to be honest and say I am a little concerned about that right now. If he can't teach Taysom, though ... are we going to expect Ammon to be any better?

Why do we keep giving scholarships to quarterbacks that need to learn how to pass. How cool would it be to recruit a quarterback that already knew how to pass?