The Big 10 Expansion Groundswell

[Uncle Ted]

The B10 or B12 just need to take one more team away from the PAC to effectively kill it. The P12 may be on crutches as a 10 team league, but is far from dead as long as they have UO, UW and the Bay schools. I'm hoping the B10 takes just one more team. The chaos of the remaining members to find a lifeboat would be fun to watch.

Yeah... LOL.

B1G Commish: "OK, I just got off the phone with ND... they decided that it would be fun to join the B1G. So let's get either UO or UW and call it a day, boys. We don't need anyone else."

Pac 12-3:

[Jeff Lebowski]

Lol. Wilner and Canzano must be scrambling today.

[myboynoah]

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[Art Vandelay]

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UO, UW, Cal and Stanford I presume? Then it makes sense for B12 to take the 4 corner schools. Personally I would rather have OSU or Wazzu over Utah in the same conference as BYU, but don’t see that happening.

[Jeff Lebowski]

UO, UW, Cal and Stanford I presume? Then it makes sense for B12 to take the 4 corner schools. Personally I would rather have OSU or Wazzu over Utah in the same conference as BYU, but don’t see that happening.

How about CU, AZ, ASU, and SDSU?

[Art Vandelay]

How about CU, AZ, ASU, and SDSU?

Far better for BYU. There is no long term advantage for BYU to be in the same league as Utah (assuming they’re not in a better one). Lots of recruiting overlap, and to a lesser degree completions for eyeballs every Saturday afternoon

[Bo Diddley]

Far better for BYU. There is no long term advantage for BYU to be in the same league as Utah (assuming they’re not in a better one). Lots of recruiting overlap, and to a lesser degree completions for eyeballs every Saturday afternoon

What's your obsession over eyeballs all about?

[Jeff Lebowski]

What's your obsession over eyeballs all about?

[Art Vandelay]

What's your obsession over eyeballs all about?

Well done.

Something’s got to pay the bills.

[myboynoah]

How about CU, AZ, ASU, and SDSU?

uofutah or SDSU is worth discussion by the Big12. I hope that happens.

[USUC]

I genuinely don't want Utah in the Big-XII, but how realistic is it that they won't get picked up? It's a foregone conclusion they will.

[myboynoah]

I genuinely don't want Utah in the Big-XII, but how realistic is it that they won't get picked up? It's a foregone conclusion they will.

I agree that it seems like a foregone conclusion. But why? They've had a good run, but they are one bad coaching hire away from regressing to the historical mean. Look at the uofutah bb program.

Don't really bring more eyeballs. Do bring a well-know rivalry game with BYU that could be exploited. I like that idea. But not taking SDSU leaves the whole of California to the BIG, and to a lesser extent the MWC and the WAC. Would be good for the Big12 to have a foothold there. And who knows, Big12 affiliation may elevate SDSU, and that is a fun rivalry with BYU.

I guess this is getting a little far out of the skis right now, but should the time come, would like to see some analysis breaking down the decision-making process.

[Omaha 680]

I agree that it seems like a foregone conclusion. But why? They've had a good run, but they are one bad coaching hire away from regressing to the historical mean. Look at the uofutah bb program.

Don't really bring more eyeballs. Do bring a well-know rivalry game with BYU that could be exploited. I like that idea. But not taking SDSU leaves the whole of California to the BIG, and to a lesser extent the MWC and the WAC. Would be good for the Big12 to have a foothold there. And who knows, Big12 affiliation may elevate SDSU, and that is a fun rivalry with BYU.

I guess this is getting a little far out of the skis right now, but should the time come, would like to see some analysis breaking down the decision-making process.

Agreed. The bolded cannot be overstated. College football is all about coaching. If you have a great coach you can compete, if you have all the resources and fan support with a great coach you can compete for championships. Utah has obviously outperformed BYU over the past 20 years, but they are punching above their weight with good coaching (Urban followed by KW). This run has not turned them into a cross-generational power and it remains to be seen if it can be maintained after KW retires. CFB is littered with lesser programs who rose up to compete nationally and then regressed to their average after they lost the coach(es) who made it happen (Washington State, Louisville, Kansas State, even Boise State fits this mold).

I would love to see Utah left out because it is best for BYU. I think it's most likely they end up in the Big 12 but there are good arguments for SDSU over Utah.

[Applejack]

Lol. SDSU over Utah?!?!! Enjoy your wet dreams!!!

[Jeff Lebowski]

Lol. SDSU over Utah?!?!! Enjoy your wet dreams!!!

If Utah ends up in the B12 (I agree it is more likely than SDSU) they will immediately be the most hated team in the league.