BYU, do you know the way to San Jose?

[Shaka]

Star chose Utah because of BYU' s academic standards? Lol yeah right.

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Star chose Utah because he didn't have good enough academics to get into BYU.

[Hsaru]

No, he doesn't. BYU has higher standards for athletes than the minimum NCAA standard.

Yeah Drew Phillips and Kori Gaines surely met those high academic standards. Bronco has raised the standards in the past two years because he is at risk of falling below the minimum APR required by the NCAA and possibly losing a bowl game from way too many burnouts and situations like Putnam and Manase Tonga. How you let a key player like Manase Tonga fall off the wagon in his senior season shows a program failure.

[Flystripper]

Star chose Utah because he didn't have good enough academics to get into BYU.

I don't buy that at all.


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[Jarid in Cedar]

Star Lotulelei blows this rebuttal out of the water.

star could not make it into any division 1 school out of high school because of his academics. This is why he went to a junior college. it had nothing to do with BYU's standards.

[Hsaru]

started could not make it into any division 1 school out of high school because of his academics. This is why he went to a junior college. it had nothing to do with BYU's standards.

Yep BYU fans have been pulling this out of their ass. Star could have made it in to BYU easily after Snow. Bronco didn't want to risk it.

[Flystripper]

star could not make it into any division 1 school out of high school because of his academics. This is why he went to a junior college. it had nothing to do with BYU's standards.

Exactly.

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[Shaka]

JIC is right, Star was a non-qualifier all the way around. Probably not the best example.

With that said he somehow chose Utah over BYU despite being a BYU commit.

[Hsaru]

I used to think this could be our year. However there's no way, considering our deficiencies, that BYU was going to make a run this year. We wouldn't have made a run if we had Vince Lombardi coaching and Ty coming back for an encore.

Also the reason Lavell was able to make up for the lack of talent was the passing game you cited. Once the other teams caught up/on and things got much tougher. These days a Robbie Bosco and a few Mark Bellinis isn't going to cut it.

We could have made a run with Feterik at QB though. An 11-1 run.

[Shaka]

We could have made a run with Feterik at QB though. An 11-1 run.

Keep telling yourself that.

[TexTechCoug]

See what you have done, 71? Another poster is quoting your nutty theories now.

High academic standards are not the problem, people! The head coach is the problem.

Bronco is the problem.

[Hsaru]

JIC is right, Star was a non-qualifier all the way around. Probably not the best example.

With that said he somehow chose Utah over BYU despite being a BYU commit.

Olinemen usually have the highest average GPA on a college team. We have no excuses in this regard for why we don't have a great OLine. Trying to blame this all on outside forces is laughable.

All you have to look at is what Bronco has done with the Riley Nelson situation to know that most of this comes from self inflicted wounds.

[Art Vandelay]

Keep telling yourself that.

I've given Hsaru as much crap as anyone . However, I agree with him on this issue (even if pelagenius' stats don't back my claim).

In fact, just this morning I was thinking which QBs we've played against would I rather have than Riley. I would definitely take BSU, USU, OSU (either one), ND (either one), and SJSU. Utah and Wazzu are a push. I have no recollection of Weber, but I assume he sucked, so no on Weber, Idaho,GT, and likely NMSU.

[Flystripper]

JIC is right, Star was a non-qualifier all the way around. Probably not the best example.

With that said he somehow chose Utah over BYU despite being a BYU commit.

Maybe he had time to consider the rate at which utah puts defensive lineman into the NFL. I tend to believe he chose Utah for Utah's sake as shocking as that might be.

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[Jarid in Cedar]

JIC is right, Star was a non-qualifier all the way around. Probably not the best example.

With that said he somehow chose Utah over BYU despite being a BYU commit.

May be a simple as Utah not giving up on recruiting him after he went the jc route. They got Dunn, Matt Asiata, Moe Lee, etc for the same reason. They kept tabs on them, even after they committed to other schools out of hs.

[Hsaru]

And we still have one BYU fan who believes this season's failures weren't Riley/Bronco's fault. Congrats Shaka you are the only one in the world