BYU bowl prep

[Indy Coug]

I agree, but I have heard from Bronco's mouth that a National Championship is within BYUs potential. That is where the rub is. I have no problem coming to grips with the reality that BYU will never be another Notre Dame/USC/Michigan etc. What bothers me is that we are spoon-fed these lines that seem to indicate that we are working toward greatness , but then don't do the work necessary to make that happen...allegedly.

People used to freak out because LaVell would state BYU's primary goal was to win the lowly WAC every year and never mentioned national title aspirations.

So now BYU is an independent, so what should their goals be now? To be better than the other 3 Indy teams? That's not particularly lofty. If not that, then what?

[Blueintheface]

People used to freak out because LaVell would state BYU's primary goal was to win the lowly WAC every year and never mentioned national title aspirations.

So now BYU is an independent, so what should their goals be now? To be better than the other 3 Indy teams? That's not particularly lofty. If not that, then what?

Wait, so you're arguing that we as fans should lower our expectations but it's ok that the coach is openly suggesting that this is the goal? I don't get it.

[Indy Coug]

Wait, so you're arguing that we as fans should lower our expectations but it's ok that the coach is openly suggesting that this is the goal? I don't get it.

I'm suggesting that Bronco is screwed no matter which goal he publicly sets. People seem thoroughly unimpressed with consistent 10 win seasons and finishing between 15th and 25th nationally.

[Blueintheface]

I'm suggesting that Bronco is screwed no matter which goal he publicly sets. People seem thoroughly unimpressed with consistent 10 win seasons and finishing between 15th and 25th nationally.

I agree. He's in a tight spot.

[Coach McGuirk]

I'm suggesting that Bronco is screwed no matter which goal he publicly sets. People seem thoroughly unimpressed with consistent 10 win seasons and finishing between 15th and 25th nationally.

I was and am completely unimpressed with the 9 wins BYU had this season.

[Indy Coug]

I was and am completely unimpressed with the 9 wins BYU had this season.

So we're back to Bronco having to throw out national titles as a goal, knowing full well the combination of who BYU is and what their access is and will be precludes that from ever happening again. Drop that goal down a notch and you have even more people gunning for Bronco because he's "satisfied with mediocrity", even if BYU's success has been better than 80% of the nation.

[Blueintheface]

So we're back to Bronco having to throw out national titles as a goal, knowing full well the combination of who BYU is and what their access is and will be precludes that from ever happening again. Drop that goal down a notch and you have even more people gunning for Bronco because he's "satisfied with mediocrity", even if BYU's success has been better than 80% of the nation.

That answer still doesn't speak to the disconnect between that stated goal and the fan's expectation being excessive. You don't set goals that you don't expect to achieve, right? Are you suggesting Coach M thinks that the goal is unattainable but based upon independence he has no other goal to set?

[Coach McGuirk]

So we're back to Bronco having to throw out national titles as a goal, knowing full well the combination of who BYU is and what their access is and will be precludes that from ever happening again. Drop that goal down a notch and you have even more people gunning for Bronco because he's "satisfied with mediocrity", even if BYU's success has been better than 80% of the nation.

Nope. I don't need a national championship. Beating a good team once in a while, a team that ends the season as a top 30 team. That would be nice.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Nope. I don't need a national championship. Beating a good team once in a while, a team that ends the season as a top 30 team. That would be nice.

You should be happy about that part at least. We are in the top 30 in most polls.

[Coach McGuirk]

You should be happy about that part at least. We are in the top 30 in most polls.

I was referring to the hypothetical team that we beat ending up in the top 30.

[Donuthole]

You should be happy about that part at least. We are in the top 30 in most polls.

Not sure that's what he meant, unless you're referencing the fact that BYU doesn't lose to other teams; BYU only beats itself.

[Jeff Lebowski]

I was referring to the hypothetical team that we beat ending up in the top 30.

Oops. Gotcha.

Well, we beat ourselves in the Utah game with all those turnovers, so there you go.

EDIT: Dang it. I'm a hack.

[Goatnapper'96]

Nope. I don't need a national championship. Beating a good team once in a while, a team that ends the season as a top 30 team. That would be nice.

How often? By my basic memory, BYU does that about as often under Mendenhall as it always did. It seems to me he has won about 33 percent of those match ups.

[Coach McGuirk]

How often? By my basic memory, BYU does that about as often under Mendenhall as it always did. It seems to me he has won about 33 percent of those match ups.

who was the last team Mendenhall beat that ended the season in the top 30?

[Donuthole]

who was the last team Mendenhall beat that ended the season in the top 30?

San Diego State? Oklahoma?