2012 BYU Football Season

[ERCougar]

Shoganai says

Lol.
I don't even know what that means.

[dabrockster]

Shoganai says

[YOhio]

Lol.
I don't even know what that means.

Of course not. You don't have the gift.

[jay santos]

Shoganai says

Shoganai's a Holmoe apologist.

[byu71]

Shoganai's a Holmoe apologist.

Does he think Holmoe has anymore say in what goes on than say Val Hale did?

That was his name wasn't it?

[The_Douger]

In case you guys were wondering, I still miss Rondo Fehlberg.

[dabrockster]

In case you guys were wondering, I still miss Rondo Fehlberg.

[YOhio]

Now shoganai says:

Changes at BYU are inevitable. Some will be visible (o-line), others less so. Some will happen quickly, others will require patience.

[kccougar]

Does he think Holmoe has anymore say in what goes on than say Val Hale did?

That was his name wasn't it?

I actually think that HOlmoe has quite a bit more say than Hale did.

[Jeff Lebowski]

I think he's saying that the higher ups want it run a certain way and Bronco is doing that, but at the cost of a high end football program.

He's saying he'll blindly support sacrament meeting and church stuff because I'm assuming he has a testimony of the gospel, but he won't blindly support this because it's not church, it's a football team, and you have to put the time and effort in to be an elite program if that's what you're striving for.

That is exactly what I am saying. Thanks.

Crazy talk all the way around.

You must have forgotten the circumstances under which Bronco was hired (it was well documented) and how he spent hours in the interview process pitching himself by describing his vision for re-engineering BYU football as a missionary tool for the church. You must have forgotten that Lavell didn't operate this way. You must have forgotten that we currently have a highly successful basketball program that isn't operated this way. And how is it that horrible management of players, dubious assistant coach decisions, and terrible judgement in terms of game time decisions and clock management has anything to do with being forced from above to run a righteous program? Stop kidding yourself. This is all on Bronco.

And finally, enough with the martyr act. Nobody is expecting you to support BYU football out of a sense of church duty except for few loons on cougarboard.

[Jarid in Cedar]

Crazy talk all the way around.

You must have forgotten the circumstances under which Bronco was hired (it was well documented) and how he spent hours in the interview process pitching himself by describing his vision for re-engineering BYU football as a missionary tool for the church. You must have forgotten that Lavell didn't operate this way. You must have forgotten that we currently have a highly successful basketball program that isn't operated this way. And how is it that horrible management of players, dubious assistant coach decisions, and terrible judgement in terms of game time decisions and clock management has anything to do with being forced from above to run a righteous program? Stop kidding yourself. This is all on Bronco.

And finally, enough with the martyr act. Nobody is expecting you to support BYU football out of a sense of church duty except for few loons on cougarboard.

'71 JL

[byu71]

Crazy talk all the way around.

You must have forgotten the circumstances under which Bronco was hired (it was well documented) and how he spent hours in the interview process pitching himself by describing his vision for re-engineering BYU football as a missionary tool for the church. You must have forgotten that Lavell didn't operate this way. You must have forgotten that we currently have a highly successful basketball program that isn't operated this way. And how is it that horrible management of players, dubious assistant coach decisions, and terrible judgement in terms of game time decisions and clock management has anything to do with being forced from above to run a righteous program? Stop kidding yourself. This is all on Bronco.

And finally, enough with the martyr act. Nobody is expecting you to support BYU football out of a sense of church duty except for few loons on cougarboard.

Go back and re-read the interview process and see how the "job description" was defined to Bronco and I assume others. I only say "assume" because they haven't openly disclosed what was said to them. From information I have, which in no way in hell would I share with someone with such a condescending attitude as yourself, Reid and Reynolds did not sing the "we can win big" without having football a priority song.

Yea, to Bronco's credit he sang the song the folks doing the hiring wanted to hear. After losses he has gotten verbal and written support from higher ups indicating basically the things he is doing is more important than winning.

Go ahead and rag on Bronco all you want and continue with your lala land belief that RM's and the "right" kind of kids can lead us to the promise land if we only had a great coach.

By the way character shots don't phase me.

[DU Ute]

[The_Douger]

Crazy talk all the way around.

You must have forgotten the circumstances under which Bronco was hired (it was well documented) and how he spent hours in the interview process pitching himself by describing his vision for re-engineering BYU football as a missionary tool for the church. You must have forgotten that Lavell didn't operate this way. You must have forgotten that we currently have a highly successful basketball program that isn't operated this way. And how is it that horrible management of players, dubious assistant coach decisions, and terrible judgement in terms of game time decisions and clock management has anything to do with being forced from above to run a righteous program? Stop kidding yourself. This is all on Bronco.

And finally, enough with the martyr act. Nobody is expecting you to support BYU football out of a sense of church duty except for few loons on cougarboard.

I'm just to the point that I think Bronco is Steve Cleveland, who I really like but wasn't going to take us further than we traveled during his tenure.

Unfortunately, I think Bronco is a great guy and I don't think he's going to be able to get us better than a 10-2 or 9-3 season where we lose to any team with a pulse.

And I can live with that. I get that we're spoiled as a fanbase, overall. I guess I just want the things the teams we're consistently compared with are getting, which is BCS games, moving to a better conference, etc.

I get that much of that is out of our control. But, that's still what I want.

[Donuthole]

Someone will eventually be held accountable for poor play. If the coaches won't act with credibility, their bosses will.

Lol.
I don't even know what that means.

Count me among those hoping "Act with Credibility" becomes BYU's official T-shirt slogan for next year.