Utah @ Cal in AT&T Park

[TripletDaddy]

I blame Chow. He was a terrible hire. They picked him for his knowledge of the Pac12 and all they got was an OC with schemes that every other Pac12 team knows how to beat.

I'd still take BJ. He's got a lot of innate knowledge, and got Wynn to move comfortably in the pocket. They threw Hays at him- an untried commodity with no time for learning how to QB at Div I level, and then get mad that Brian cant turn sh@t into shinola.

Are you still talking about NoCho here? I can never tell what your flavor of the day is. At what point does Utah start carving through the PAC like buttah?

[TripletDaddy]

Ha! I realized I contradicted myself there. I guess my point was that if Utah can limit turnovers, their defense should be able to keep them in games but we know that based on the offense we have seen the last three weeks, it is going to be really tough. The Beavers rolled WSU last night and if Mannion is given time, he can make plays.

I don't see the Utes going bowling this year. After next week's loss, the question will be if people will stop showing up to the games like they did with basketball last year.

I will be watching the ticket market. prices and demand will start dropping now that it is clear that the Ute season is basically over. With each passing week, we will hear less "we could lose every game and I would still just be happy to be in the PAC..." the interesting dichotomy down South is that demand is also dropping for tickets despite a wining team because the schedule is almost historically lousy. So many drivers that affect ticket prices.

This has been the strangest season for college football along the Wasatch in who knows how many years.

[Hot Lunch]

I blame Chow. He was a terrible hire. They picked him for his knowledge of the Pac12 and all they got was an OC with schemes that every other Pac12 team knows how to beat.

I'd still take BJ. He's got a lot of innate knowledge, and got Wynn to move comfortably in the pocket. They threw Hays at him- an untried commodity with no time for learning how to QB at Div I level, and then get mad that Brian cant turn sh@t into shinola.

Sorry, I disagree with blaming Chow right now. Chow isn't responsible for the awful talent that Utah has at q.b. and on the o line right now. It is hard to call plays and be successful when you are awful at those two positions.

BJ is in over his head. Way over his head. I have said that since the day they hired him. He might have a bright future as a coach, I don't know. The q.b. play the past two years has be down right awful. He needed to grow and learn as a coach before he was handed that position.

[U-Ute]

Sorry, I disagree with blaming Chow right now. Chow isn't responsible for the awful talent that Utah has at q.b. and on the o line right now. It is hard to call plays and be successful when you are awful at those two positions.

BJ is in over his head. Way over his head. I have said that since the day they hired him. He might have a bright future as a coach, I don't know. The q.b. play the past two years has be down right awful. He need to grow and learn as a coach before he was handed that position.

I have to say, they showed a shot of BJ sitting next to Hays on the bench, and they both looked absolutely broken. BJ looked like a deer in the headlights, and Hays looked like the deer that got run over.

I thought of your comments as all of it went down. Seemed like a spot on call, unfortunately.

[U-Ute]

Three things are apparent:

1. QB position. This one is obvious.
2. Offensive line. Doesn't help #1.
3. Linebackers. I haven't seen this one brought up much given the glaring issues of #1 and #2, but they have been getting exploited big time since the ASU game. Teams are attacking the edges on the run, and in the middle of the field on passes.

[Shaka]

Sorry, I disagree with blaming Chow right now. Chow isn't responsible for the awful talent that Utah has at q.b. and on the o line right now. It is hard to call plays and be successful when you are awful at those two positions.

BJ is in over his head. Way over his head. I have said that since the day they hired him. He might have a bright future as a coach, I don't know. The q.b. play the past two years has be down right awful. He needed to grow and learn as a coach before he was handed that position.

I always thought that part of the reason to bring Norm in was to provide some seasoning to BJ and Roderick. I wonder if he's helping BJ out.

In a way I feel bad for Norm. I think Utah got caught with their pants down with regard to quarterback depth. Hays was the best they could do with the short time available. It's strange that they thought they were deep enough to give Robles a position switch.

[OrangeUte]

Is it strange that the coaches are holding onto Shreeve's red shirt like grim death when it the offense is such a train wreck? This offense needs a spark. I listened to the interview with Joe (?) Kruger after the game last night. It is clear that the defense is ticked at the offense's inability to play.

I'm interested to know what the expectation is for Langi and Palamo. After the 3rd quarter it would have been nice to get them into the game and get some carries against a hostile defense. JW did. It get the no. Done. It is time for some change up on the depth chart.

[UtahJazzFan88]

I blame Chow. He was a terrible hire. They picked him for his knowledge of the Pac12 and all they got was an OC with schemes that every other Pac12 team knows how to beat.

I'd still take BJ. He's got a lot of innate knowledge, and got Wynn to move comfortably in the pocket. They threw Hays at him- an untried commodity with no time for learning how to QB at Div I level, and then get mad that Brian cant turn sh@t into shinola.

I agree, Norm Chow is overrated, everyone in the PAC-12 knows what he's doing, it's not like he transformed UCLA with his knowledge. However it's too early to judge when we don't have any weapons on offense outside of John White.

[Mormon Red Death]

Is it strange that the coaches are holding onto Shreeve's red shirt like grim death when it the offense is such a train wreck? This offense needs a spark. I listened to the interview with Joe (?) Kruger after the game last night. It is clear that the defense is ticked at the offense's inability to play.

I'm interested to know what the expectation is for Langi and Palamo. After the 3rd quarter it would have been nice to get them into the game and get some carries against a hostile defense. JW did. It get the no. Done. It is time for some change up on the depth chart.

It doesn't make sense to burn his redshirt. They are playing this right. Make due on this season and go forward with shreve having 4 years to play next year. The real question is why can't robles get a shot?

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[Flattop]

It doesn't make sense to burn his redshirt. They are playing this right. Make due on this season and go forward with shreve having 4 years to play next year. The real question is why can't robles get a shot?

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Robles did get a shot last night. It didn't go very well.

[Hot Lunch]

It doesn't make sense to burn his redshirt. They are playing this right. Make due on this season and go forward with shreve having 4 years to play next year. The real question is why can't robles get a shot?

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The three plays I saw from Robles last night was enough to tell me he doesn't deserve a shot. Maybe you saw something different when he skipped that pass across the turf last night.

[Mormon Red Death]

The three plays I saw from Robles last night was enough to tell me he doesn't deserve a shot. Maybe you saw something different when he skipped that pass across the turf last night.

I stand corrected. It must have been when I turned over to the msu v wisconsin game

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[DrumNFeather]

It doesn't make sense to burn his redshirt. They are playing this right. Make due on this season and go forward with shreve having 4 years to play next year. The real question is why can't robles get a shot?

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I'm not sure this team/program can afford to just piss away a season in the Pac 12 just to hang on to Shreve's redshirt. Now, maybe they really think that Shreve couldn't measurably help them more than Hays or Griff, but if that's the case, then they're going to have to start using wildcat and other gimmicky stuff to get the offense moving.

I just don't think KW and Co. can risk a 3-9 or 4-8 season in year 1 in the Pac 12 unless, as funk suggests, Shreve is just awful. This team needs a spark.

EDIT: Just read KW's statement on Redshirting Shreeve. It would appear that he is perfectly OK with pissing away the season...errr "going with that they got"

[OrangeUte]

It is more important to try and get bowl eligible this year than it is to save Shreeve's red shirt. We lack any creativity to correct this season, it appears. Our 3 headed monster that we are afraid to unleash consists of Langi, Palamo, and Shreeve. It's time to dare them to step up.

[UtahJazzFan88]

Why redshirt Shreeve when you're in a do or die situation right now, the first year in the PAC-12 is going to be huge for us down the line, even if it is the New Mexico Bowl. Is Shreeve really important enough to redshirt him this year? He could be the spark that we need, who knows. If he's not going to be the QB of the future anyway, I don't get the point of red shirting him since he could MAYBE be a spark.