The Pac-12 participation thread.

[Hot Lunch]

I like the potential from the skill guys, the question is, can the OL get a decent push or protect Fat QB? Pete really slacked off in recruiting the trenches his last three years. I like what Kiffin has done with his last two classes, but we're still lacking in OL/DL depth. At least we'll have a game to prep for the Ute's DL. I'm not sure if SC will come across a more physical DL next season.

The inexperience of SC's o-line and the talent that Utah has on their D-Line is the only thing that gives me a very very small bit of hope for that game. They do have a game to gel but thank goodness it is still very early.

[Hot Lunch]

I still don't understand why he brought his old man. The USC defense was in trouble from the Hawaii game, luckily they had an accidental helmet to helmet that caused the Hawaii QB to leave the game or that might have ended badly.

Old Man Kif's resume spoke for itself prior to his arrival at SC.

[HuskyFreeNorthwest]

Old Man Kif's resume spoke for itself prior to his arrival at SC.

Not against college offenses. Every smarmy person that calls great college offenses gimmicks, is always quick to point out that they never work in the NFL. Well why would you try and use the same defense that stops awesome pro non-gimmick offenses?

When a college coach goes to the NFL many are always skeptical that he will be a success. Why should one assume that an NFL coach, regardless of success will be the same in college?

[SipiTau]

I still don't understand why he brought his old man. The USC defense was in trouble from the Hawaii game, luckily they had an accidental helmet to helmet that caused the Hawaii QB to leave the game or that might have ended badly.

I don't think it was an accidental helmet to helmet. I can't blame him, the old man has the resume and he had success at Tenn. Some of the boys I know, said that the defense was overly complicated; multiple coverages dependent on pre snap formation & movement. The old man ran a simplified version of the D at Tenn; SC's D responded better, when he reverted to his Tenn gameplan.

[Hot Lunch]

Not against college offenses. Every smarmy person that calls great college offenses gimmicks, is always quick to point out that they never work in the NFL. Well why would you try and use the same defense that stops awesome pro non-gimmick offenses?

When a college coach goes to the NFL many are always skeptical that he will be a success. Why should one assume that an NFL coach, regardless of success will be the same in college?

I think they ranked around 25th in total defense in 2009 while at Tennessee. That is going against the best talent in college football. Before that it looks like it was 1982 when he last coached in college.

[Portland Ute]

For some reason, reading this thread today made me think of this:




Today, it seems they are fighting the evil forces of the Green Lantern. Or whatever the hell this is:

[HuskyFreeNorthwest]

For some reason, reading this thread today made me think of this:

Today, it seems they are fighting the evil forces of the Green Lantern. Or whatever the hell this is:

LOL Oklahoma and Southern Cal are the good and Oregon is a villain.

Just don't count the NCAA investigations. I do agree with DDD as Robin however.

[Paperback Writer]

I think they ranked around 25th in total defense in 2009 while at Tennessee. That is going against the best talent in college football. Before that it looks like it was 1982 when he last coached in college.

That's what I was going to point out. Monte Kiffin was a very successful DC at Nebraska and Arkansas in the 1970s. I know it's kind of dated, but I don't think you can pin a specific defense for Kiffin Sr. Perhaps he's still stuck with his Pro-Style Tampa Cover-2 but the man figured out a way to slow down Barry Switzer's Sooner wishbone when few others had an answer. I think you give Monte Kiffin the personel and he can come up with a decent answer to Oregon's offense. Or he's smart enough to pick up the phone and call the HC and DC at his alma mater who probably do have a pretty good answer for it.

[TripletDaddy]

That's what I was going to point out. Monte Kiffin was a very successful DC at Nebraska and Arkansas in the 1970s. I know it's kind of dated, but I don't think you can pin a specific defense for Kiffin Sr. Perhaps he's still stuck with his Pro-Style Tampa Cover-2 but the man figured out a way to slow down Barry Switzer's Sooner wishbone when few others had an answer. I think you give Monte Kiffin the personel and he can come up with a decent answer to Oregon's offense. Or he's smart enough to pick up the phone and call the HC and DC at his alma mater who probably do have a pretty good answer for it.

It is funny that you mention the Wishbone and Oregon's offense in the same post.

[HuskyFreeNorthwest]

That's what I was going to point out. Monte Kiffin was a very successful DC at Nebraska and Arkansas in the 1970s. I know it's kind of dated, but I don't think you can pin a specific defense for Kiffin Sr. Perhaps he's still stuck with his Pro-Style Tampa Cover-2 but the man figured out a way to slow down Barry Switzer's Sooner wishbone when few others had an answer. I think you give Monte Kiffin the personel and he can come up with a decent answer to Oregon's offense. Or he's smart enough to pick up the phone and call the HC and DC at his alma mater who probably do have a pretty good answer for it.

I'll take that bet.

[HuskyFreeNorthwest]

It is funny that you mention the Wishbone and Oregon's offense in the same post.

Robin I think you are supposed to wait for Batgirl to post first, then follow her up with something supportive.

[Paperback Writer]

It is funny that you mention the Wishbone and Oregon's offense in the same post.

The Wishbone was the "gimmick" offense back in the day. Oregon's spread option offense has option football principals built into it like the Wishbone. Both of the offenses originated in Texas' high schools. You might laugh, but the Wishbone and Spread Option do have a lot in common.

[Portland Ute]

LOL Oklahoma and Southern Cal are the good and Oregon is a villain.

Just don't count the NCAA investigations. I do agree with DDD as Robin however.

(pssst...it was a joke.)

[Paperback Writer]

I'll take that bet.

Time will tell. Monte Kiffin may or may not be the man to stop Oregon's Spread Option but the answer is out there. I think Nebraska may have an answer for it right now. Offenses in college football are always cyclical. Defensive coordinators came up with answers to Oklahoma's wishbone, Nebraska's power option, BYU's air attack, Houston's Run and Shoot, etc. Oregon's spread offense is run exceptionally well but it can be matched and I think the clock is already running on it.

[Babs]

(pssst...it was a joke.)

Is not! :babs: