The Big East expansion groundswell thread

[Hsaru]

BYU is now the most irrelevant "good" program in the country, every other program with a pulse is in a BCS conference.

[Ute]

BYU is now the most irrelevant "good" program in the country, every other program with a pulse is in a BCS conference.

[ame="http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6672862"]2011-12 bowl schedule - ESPN[/ame]

2011-12 College Football Bowl Schedule
Bowl Location Date/Time Network
Gildan New Mexico
Temple vs. Wyoming Albuquerque, N.M.
University Stadium
Tickets Dec. 17
2 p.m. ESPN

Famous Idaho Potato Bowl
Ohio vs. Utah State Boise, Idaho
Bronco Stadium
Tickets Dec. 17
5:30 p.m. ESPN

R+L Carriers New Orleans
San Diego State vs. Louisiana-Lafayette New Orleans
Mercedes-Benz Superdome
Tickets Dec. 17
9 p.m. ESPN

Beef 'O' Brady's St. Petersburg
Florida International vs. Marshall St. Petersburg, Fla.
Tropicana Field
Tickets Dec. 20
8 p.m. ESPN

S.D. County Credit Union Poinsettia
TCU vs. Louisiana Tech San Diego
Qualcomm Stadium
Tickets Dec. 21
8 p.m. ESPN

MAACO Las Vegas
Arizona State vs. Boise State Las Vegas
Sam Boyd Stadium
Tickets Dec. 22
8 p.m. ESPN

Sheraton Hawaii
Nevada vs. Southern Miss Honolulu
Aloha Stadium
Tickets Dec. 24
8 p.m. ESPN

AdvoCare V100 Independence
Missouri vs. North Carolina Shreveport, La.
Independence Stadium
Tickets Dec. 26
5 p.m. ESPN2

Little Caesars
Western Michigan vs. Purdue Detroit
Ford Field
Tickets Dec. 27
4:30 p.m. ESPN

Belk
Louisville vs. NC State Charlotte, N.C.
Bank of America Stadium
Tickets Dec. 27
8 p.m. ESPN

Military Bowl Presented By Northrop Grumman
Toledo vs. Air Force Washington, D.C.
RFK Stadium
Tickets Dec. 28
4:30 p.m. ESPN

Bridgepoint Education Holiday
California vs. Texas San Diego
Qualcomm Stadium
Tickets Dec. 28
8 p.m. ESPN

Champs Sports
Florida State vs. Notre Dame Orlando, Fla.
Florida Citrus Bowl
Tickets Dec. 29
5:30 p.m. ESPN

Valero Alamo
Washington vs. Baylor San Antonio
Alamodome
Tickets Dec. 29
9 p.m. ESPN

Bell Helicopter Armed Forces
BYU vs. Tulsa Dallas
Gerald J. Ford Stadium
Tickets Dec. 30
Noon ESPN

New Era Pinstripe
Rutgers vs. Iowa State Bronx, N.Y.
Yankee Stadium
Tickets Dec. 30
3:20 p.m. ESPN

Franklin American Mortgage Music City
Mississippi State vs. Wake Forest Nashville, Tenn.
LP Field
Tickets Dec. 30
6:40 p.m. ESPN

Insight
Iowa vs. Oklahoma Tempe, Ariz.
Sun Devil Stadium
Tickets Dec. 30
10 p.m. ESPN

Meineke Car Care of Texas
Texas A&M vs. Northwestern Houston
Reliant Stadium
Tickets Dec. 31
Noon ESPN

Hyundai Sun
Georgia Tech vs. Utah El Paso, Texas
Sun Bowl
Tickets Dec. 31
2 p.m. CBS

AutoZone Liberty
Cincinnati vs. Vanderbilt Memphis, Tenn.
Liberty Bowl
Tickets Dec. 31
3:30 p.m. ABC

Kraft Fight Hunger
Illinois vs. UCLA San Francisco
AT&T Park
Tickets Dec. 31
3:30 p.m. ESPN

Chick-fil-A
Virginia vs. Auburn Atlanta
Georgia Dome
Tickets Dec. 31
7:30 p.m. ESPN

TicketCity
Houston vs. Penn State Dallas
Cotton Bowl
Tickets Jan. 2
Noon ESPNU

Outback
Michigan State vs. Georgia Tampa, Fla.
Raymond James Stadium
Tickets Jan. 2
1 p.m. ABC

Capital One
Nebraska vs. South Carolina Orlando, Fla.
Florida Citrus Bowl
Tickets Jan. 2
1 p.m. ESPN

Taxslayer.com Gator Bowl
Ohio State vs. Florida Jacksonville, Fla.
EverBank Field
Tickets Jan. 2
1 p.m. ESPN2

Rose Bowl Game presented by Vizio
Wisconsin vs. Oregon Pasadena, Calif.
Rose Bowl
Tickets Jan. 2
5 p.m. ESPN

Tostitos Fiesta
Stanford vs. Oklahoma State Glendale, Ariz.
U. of Phoenix Stadium
Tickets Jan. 2
8:30 p.m. ESPN

Allstate Sugar
Michigan vs. Virginia Tech New Orleans
Louisiana Superdome
Tickets Jan. 3
8:30 p.m. ESPN

Discover Orange
West Virginia vs. Clemson Miami
Sun Life Stadium
Tickets Jan. 4
8:30 p.m. ESPN

AT&T Cotton
Kansas State vs. Arkansas Arlington, Texas
Cowboys Stadium
Tickets Jan. 6
8 p.m. FOX

BBVA Compass Bowl
SMU vs. Pittsburgh Birmingham, Ala.
Legion Field
Tickets Jan. 7
1 p.m. ESPN

GoDaddy.com
Arkansas State vs. Northern Illinois Mobile, Ala.
Ladd-Peebles Stadium
Tickets Jan. 8
9 p.m. ESPN

Allstate BCS National Championship Game
No. 1 LSU vs. No. 2 Alabama New Orleans
Louisiana Superdome
Tickets Jan. 9
8:30 p.m. ESPN



I'd say BYU, Air Force, Southern Miss, and perhaps Toledo.

[Jeff Lebowski]

BYU is now the most irrelevant "good" program in the country, every other program with a pulse is in a BCS conference.

Sweet. We are at the front of the line.

[Eddie]

Sweet. We are at the front of the line.

And in front of who? Well...Notre Dame for one...

I'm not sure I agree with that assessment - but I'm OK with it.

[Jeff Lebowski]

And in front of who? Well...Notre Dame for one...

I'm not sure I agree with that assessment - but I'm OK with it.

ND already has BCS access.

[Eddie]

And in front of who? Well...Notre Dame for one...

I'm not sure I agree with that assessment - but I'm OK with it.

ND already has BCS access.

That wasn't the point...

BYU is now the most irrelevant "good" program in the country, every other program with a pulse is in a BCS conference.

[San Juan Sun]

ND already has BCS access.

Which is completely useless to them with their 8-4 record.

(Hey, we're 9-3!)

[Jacob]

That wasn't the point...

ND is in a BCS conference of 1. They've just been beating themselves these past years.

[Jeff Lebowski]

That wasn't the point...

Haven't you ever heard of gallows humor?

[USUC]

Yikes, all os SDSU non football sports going to the Big West. And I thought the WCC was a step down. Fischer has got to be livid.

[falafel]

Yikes, all os SDSU non football sports going to the Big West. And I thought the WCC was a step down. Fischer has got to be livid.

Ouch. Same for Boise?

[Portland Ute]

McMurphy:

What an asinine conference.

[Eddie]

Haven't you ever heard of gallows humor?

Well...of course.

But I can only take so many kicks to the crotch in one week.

And I'm kind of hopeful that whatever conference realignment shifts are happening aren't done - and maybe things can still work out in the end...even if it is a couple of years down the road.

[USUC]

Ouch. Same for Boise?

The WAC is taking them back.

[UtahJazzFan88]

The WAC is taking them back.

With who... exactly? Boise State would be better off in the Big Sky. The WAC is about dead unless Karl Benson is going to invite new teams (I bet UVU is actually on that list).