The Big East expansion groundswell thread

[YOhio]

That's like saying beer ads don't count during the Super Bowl.

No kidding. BYU fans are shelf reliable now and we have Independence to thank for it.

[San Juan Sun]

For SJS - http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/D...all-Games.aspx

Their projections are right in line with mine.

For you:

http://cougaruteforum.com/showpost.php?p=820082&postcount=1389

edit:

I actually bothered to read the article you posted:

In Sale Lake City, Michael Lewis writes under the header, "New TV Deal Gives Cougars National Exposure They Crave." Financial terms were not disclosed, but sources indicated that BYU "could reap between $800,000 and $1.2 million per home game -- considerably more"

Again, this projection Michael Lewis in Sale Lake City is a projection from 2010, it doesn't really tell us what BYU made being indy in 2011. And furthermore, it doesn't tell us if BYU takes a pay cut by going to the BigEast. I have yet to see you even attempt to defend that assertion (which you posted on more than one board).

[lambdacoug]

For you:

http://cougaruteforum.com/showpost.p...postcount=1389

[BYUMizzou]

For you:

http://cougaruteforum.com/showpost.php?p=820082&postcount=1389

edit:

I actually bothered to read the article you posted:



Again, this projection Michael Lewis in Sale Lake City is a projection from 2010, it doesn't really tell us what BYU made being indy in 2011. And furthermore, it doesn't tell us if BYU takes a pay cut by going to the BigEast. I have yet to see you even attempt to defend that assertion (which you posted on more than one board).

Did the ESPN contract change between the fall of 2010 and the 2011 football season? I must have missed that.

If you "have yet to see me even attempt to defend that assertion" that BYU would be taking a pay cut to go to the BE, you're either being intentionally obtuse or have reading comprehension problems. The FB only BE projections under a new contract are $6M per year.

We had 6 home games on ESPN. Average of $1 M per game. My opinion that the Utah game would have been higher, but we'll stick with $1M. The $1M figure comes from the analysis of what ESPN pays for other games and is the same number Michael Lewis came up with in his article.

but sources indicated that BYU "could reap between $800,000 and $1.2 million per home game

ESPN, as our new buddy-buddy partner, put together two games for us in 2011. They re-worked their deal between Boise and Ole Miss and allowed us to step into Boise's spot, for which we got a $1M payout.

They also arranged the TCU game at cowboy's stadium. The TCU game was arranged about the same time as the WV game in Redskin's stadium. The payout for the WV game was announced and was $2.25M per team. I used $2M for this game. Both teams were projected to be top 25 teams, and a $4M payout is exactly in line with what the networks are paying for a Tier 1 game.

Add in the armed forces bowl money which we don't have to split with a conference of $1.2 M and you come to a total of $10.2M. Where I come from $10.2M > $6M.

I'm repeating all of this (except for the bowl money). As I said above, you're either being intentionally obtuse or you have reading comprehension issues.

[TripletDaddy]

[Pelado]

Did the ESPN contract change between the fall of 2010 and the 2011 football season? I must have missed that.

If you "have yet to see me even attempt to defend that assertion" that BYU would be taking a pay cut to go to the BE, you're either being intentionally obtuse or have reading comprehension problems. The FB only BE projections under a new contract are $6M per year.

We had 6 home games on ESPN. Average of $1 M per game. My opinion that the Utah game would have been higher, but we'll stick with $1M. The $1M figure comes from the analysis of what ESPN pays for other games and is the same number Michael Lewis came up with in his article.



ESPN, as our new buddy-buddy partner, put together two games for us in 2011. They re-worked their deal between Boise and Ole Miss and allowed us to step into Boise's spot, for which we got a $1M payout.

They also arranged the TCU game at cowboy's stadium. The TCU game was arranged about the same time as the WV game in Redskin's stadium. The payout for the WV game was announced and was $2.25M per team. I used $2M for this game. Both teams were projected to be top 25 teams, and a $4M payout is exactly in line with what the networks are paying for a Tier 1 game.

Add in the armed forces bowl money which we don't have to split with a conference of $1.2 M and you come to a total of $10.2M. Where I come from $10.2M > $6M.

I'm repeating all of this (except for the bowl money). As I said above, you're either being intentionally obtuse or you have reading comprehension issues.

What about the basketball money from the WCC contract?

[San Juan Sun]

Berke, who has worked with many college and professional teams and assisted the Yankees in launching the YES Network, has a more optimistic view for the Big East. He said that the Big East can ultimately fetch a rights fee in the range of the ACC's $3.6 billion deal, but only if the conference remains intact by the fall.

http://www.courant.com/sports/uconn-...6.story?page=2

IOW, the Big East may still be set up for a big payday. Maybe.

[ERCougar]

Just a brainstorm, but what if the big east and acc got together, got rid of the football deadwood, and grabbed the real draw in the slc market and a few other west division members? They could have all four time zones and a pretty good tv contract.

[San Juan Sun]

Good background article on the possible future home of a BYU-led BigEast: the NBC and CBS sports networks.

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118054673?refCatId=14

Interesting fact: NBCSN is in 79 million homes, BYUtv is in 60 million. How's that for exposure?

[Mormon Red Death]

Just a brainstorm, but what if the big east and acc got together, got rid of the football deadwood, and grabbed the real draw in the slc market and a few other west division members? They could have all four time zones and a pretty good tv contract.

Utah is happy in the pac12. I just don't see your scenario working.

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[LA Ute]

Just a brainstorm, but what if the big east and acc got together, got rid of the football deadwood, and grabbed the real draw in the slc market and a few other west division members? They could have all four time zones and a pretty good tv contract.

[Maximus]

Did the ESPN contract change between the fall of 2010 and the 2011 football season? I must have missed that.

If you "have yet to see me even attempt to defend that assertion" that BYU would be taking a pay cut to go to the BE, you're either being intentionally obtuse or have reading comprehension problems. The FB only BE projections under a new contract are $6M per year.

We had 6 home games on ESPN. Average of $1 M per game. My opinion that the Utah game would have been higher, but we'll stick with $1M. The $1M figure comes from the analysis of what ESPN pays for other games and is the same number Michael Lewis came up with in his article.



ESPN, as our new buddy-buddy partner, put together two games for us in 2011. They re-worked their deal between Boise and Ole Miss and allowed us to step into Boise's spot, for which we got a $1M payout.

They also arranged the TCU game at cowboy's stadium. The TCU game was arranged about the same time as the WV game in Redskin's stadium. The payout for the WV game was announced and was $2.25M per team. I used $2M for this game. Both teams were projected to be top 25 teams, and a $4M payout is exactly in line with what the networks are paying for a Tier 1 game.

Add in the armed forces bowl money which we don't have to split with a conference of $1.2 M and you come to a total of $10.2M. Where I come from $10.2M > $6M.

I'm repeating all of this (except for the bowl money). As I said above, you're either being intentionally obtuse or you have reading comprehension issues.

ESPN was so nice to set up not one but 2 1 and dones last year.

[byu71]

Did the ESPN contract change between the fall of 2010 and the 2011 football season? I must have missed that.

If you "have yet to see me even attempt to defend that assertion" that BYU would be taking a pay cut to go to the BE, you're either being intentionally obtuse or have reading comprehension problems. The FB only BE projections under a new contract are $6M per year.

We had 6 home games on ESPN. Average of $1 M per game. My opinion that the Utah game would have been higher, but we'll stick with $1M. The $1M figure comes from the analysis of what ESPN pays for other games and is the same number Michael Lewis came up with in his article.



ESPN, as our new buddy-buddy partner, put together two games for us in 2011. They re-worked their deal between Boise and Ole Miss and allowed us to step into Boise's spot, for which we got a $1M payout.

They also arranged the TCU game at cowboy's stadium. The TCU game was arranged about the same time as the WV game in Redskin's stadium. The payout for the WV game was announced and was $2.25M per team. I used $2M for this game. Both teams were projected to be top 25 teams, and a $4M payout is exactly in line with what the networks are paying for a Tier 1 game.

Add in the armed forces bowl money which we don't have to split with a conference of $1.2 M and you come to a total of $10.2M. Where I come from $10.2M > $6M.

I'm repeating all of this (except for the bowl money). As I said above, you're either being intentionally obtuse or you have reading comprehension issues.

I have always contended with BYU it is about the money like everyone else. I never had any information to support my contention though, thanks.

[San Juan Sun]

Chill, bro. We got this.

http://ucf.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1370666

OK, he actually talks about the possibility of a joint NBC/ESPN deal for the BigEast. He's very excited. I am too.

[BYUMizzou]

ESPN was so nice to set up not one but 2 1 and dones last year.

Nice revisionist history.

BYU had a hole in its schedule for opening week 2011. The alternative was playing a FCS team. Instead, ESPN talked Boise and Ole Miss into postponing their game that was scheduled for that week to 2014 and moved BYU into Boise's slot, and, in the process, got BYU a $1 Million paycheck for the game.

As for the TCU one and done, we were scheduled to play at Louisiana Tech the week of the TCU game. We were able to drop the LA Tech away game and replace it with the TCU game in Jerryworld and add a nice fat paycheck to boot.

Again, nice revisionist history.